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Catholic college drops health plan over contraception mandate

Deuce said:
See: Same-sex marriage bans, anti-contraceptive laws, anti-abortion laws, that bull**** where I can't buy beer on sunday mornings.
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I agree. No business or institution should be forced to pay for one of their member's abortion, contraception or marriage. They can pay for their own if they are so inclined.


Nobody is forcing this university to have a health insurance plan, nobody is forcing students to pay into that health plan, and nobody is forcing anyone to actually use birth control.
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Is Obamacare not forcing the universities to offer insurance to, at the least, their employees? The employer is being forced to pay for the premium required for that coverage - that cost can not be passed on to the employee - according to HHS requirements. I have no problem with schools dropping their insurance coverage for their students - unintended consequences is what hte government is best at finding.
 
mpg said:
Catholic college drops health plan over contraception mandate | Reuters

(Reuters) - A small Catholic college in Ohio said Tuesday it was dropping health insurance coverage for students rather than comply with a federal mandate that the plan provide free birth control.
The Franciscan University of Steubenville "will not participate in a plan that requires us to violate the consistent teachings of the Catholic Church on the sacredness of human life," according to a bulletin to students posted on the university's website.
Not only will the university drop its own plan, but it will no longer require its undergraduates to carry insurance, the bulletin said. "We didn't want to put them in a situation where they would have to violate their conscience," said Michael Hernon, a vice president at Franciscan University.
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Meh, if that's what they want to do, no big deal. Sucks for their students though.
 
Wiseone said:
I'm an owner of a business and have a moral connection to the philosophy of Darwinism, therefore its against my morals to provide any healthcare to my employees at all and I want to be exempt from any of it. The profits I'll inevitably reap are just proof of my moral superiority under my philosophy.

Damn I love moral ambiguity, why can't we base more government decisions and laws based on it? O ya because its ****ing insane
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:prof

1. There is nothing wrong with running your business by your morals.
2. Forcing businesses to provide services they do not wish to provide is a violation of their rights.
3. Its perfectly acceptable to reject force peacefully and people do it all the time.
 
mpg said:
Catholic college drops health plan over contraception mandate | Reuters

(Reuters) - A small Catholic college in Ohio said Tuesday it was dropping health insurance coverage for students rather than comply with a federal mandate that the plan provide free birth control.
The Franciscan University of Steubenville "will not participate in a plan that requires us to violate the consistent teachings of the Catholic Church on the sacredness of human life," according to a bulletin to students posted on the university's website.
Not only will the university drop its own plan, but it will no longer require its undergraduates to carry insurance, the bulletin said. "We didn't want to put them in a situation where they would have to violate their conscience," said Michael Hernon, a vice president at Franciscan University.
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Ah, the unintended consequences of bad policy begin.
 
muciti said:
They have the right to do it but to me it is selfish and silly. No one is forcing anyone to use birth control. No one is forcing them to do anything they do not believe in. It is only giving those who may need it the option.
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You know as well as I the Catholic Church will never facilitate an act that is incompatible with their doctrine.
 
apdst said:
See: gun control laws, anti-junk food laws, anti-smoking laws.

Sucks when your own tactics are used against you. Huh?
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Well, none of those are laws I support, so... I guess you and I agree that gun control laws, anti-junk food laws, anti-smoking laws, anti-SSM laws, anti-abortion laws, and anti-contraceptive laws are silly.
 
whysoserious said:
Good. I hope they lose students and any Federal grants they receive.
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Many private schools won't accept federal grants because they have no compunction to comply with their bureaucracy and be coerced into something that violates their standards.
 
mpg said:
Maybe they'll provide some other form of assistance.
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The problem with that is then whatever the assistance doesn't cover the government will mandate that it does.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1060502435 said:
You know as well as I the Catholic Church will never facilitate an act that is incompatible with their doctrine.
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The Catholic church doesn't like it when others impose their beliefs on them, so why do they think it is ok to impose theirs on others. The fact is that no person would be forced to violate their beliefs. It is just silly like I said before. They have this healthcare plan option and the birth control probably adds virtually nothing to their costs. There is no good reason for them to be depriving their students of medical coverage just to keep people from having access to birth control. There is no decent logic behind that.
 
Henrin said:
:prof

1. There is nothing wrong with running your business by your morals.
2. Forcing businesses to provide services they do not wish to provide is a violation of their rights.
3. Its perfectly acceptable to reject force peacefully and people do it all the time.
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I dont want to provide healthcare, safety standards, or follow employment or hiring laws, maternity leave, because I don't wish to provide it.

Don't you see how much you open up by saying "they do not wish to provide?"
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1060502459 said:
Many private schools won't accept federal grants because they have no compunction to comply with their bureaucracy and be coerced into something that violates their standards.
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...I doubt that. You're telling me that students of these private schools don't receive grants? Here's a quick Google of "Georgetown Federal Grants":

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Wiseone said:
I dont want to provide healthcare, safety standards, or follow employment or hiring laws, because I don't wish to provide it.

Don't you see how much you open up by saying "they do not wish to provide?"
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Yes I realize everything I'm doing.
 
muciti said:
The Catholic church doesn't like it when others impose their beliefs on them, so why do they think it is ok to impose theirs on others.
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They aren't imposing their beliefs on others.





muciti said:
The fact is that no person would be forced to violate their beliefs.
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only because they aren't required to provide insurance





muciti said:
There is no good reason for them to be depriving their students of medical coverage just to keep people from having access to birth control.
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They aren't depriving their students of medical coverage and they aren't keeping anyone from having access to BC. Your post is full of falsehoods.
 
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