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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    How did he deserve that? Please elaborate.
    Burglary, felony evasion. Yeah, he deserved to get his ass kicked.

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by unapologeticdan View Post
    But what if this kid just made a bad choice that day?
    At least we can agree on that...he made a bad choice that day...a couple bad choices.
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    Does that action mandate a beating from authorities?
    It's particularly the felony evasion part which earned him an ass kicking.
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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The last major riot in Houston happened in the late 1970's, when police officers were acquitted by an all white jury in a case where the officers threw a handcuffed Hispanic man named Jose Torres into Buffalo Bayou and remarked "Let's see if this wetback can swim". Torres drowned..
    Uhh, The officers involved in the Torres case were both tried and convicted in state and federal courts. Why are you lying about this?And the riots were organized by the american communist party.

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm on-topic, you're not. Deal with it.
    Even though I just made an observation...that these types of stories are more prevelant than normal....police abuse is pretty related to the topic on hand...
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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Maybe this ass whoopin will dissuade Chad Holley from his evil ways and his wicked doings

    Amen

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    How you would have handled this situation. Also, while you are at it, let me know your experience, heck training too, as it relates to encounters of these types.
    Ummm...probably would of put on the cuffs and took him to jail. Once the guy is lying on the ground face down with his arms out he's not posing much of a threat is he? It's common sense. You don't gather around and kick the **** out of him.
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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Burglary, felony evasion. Yeah, he deserved to get his ass kicked.
    Was he doing any of that when he was beaten?
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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Why do you think the officer and 3 others were fired over this? You folks think that when someone does something wrong you can just toss any charge at them regardless? This cop was charged with a rather unusual crime: TEX PE. CODE ANN. § 39.03 : Texas Statutes - Section 39.03: OFFICIAL OPPRESSION

    Oppression? Seriously? Oppression? What a bunch of bull****. Charge him with assault, or battery, or similar. But oppression? Who would even think of that?
    SOP for prosecutors. What's your point?


    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The statute clearly lists "mistreatment". Repeated kicks, punches, and attacks by several officers once the guy placed himself in the prone position would, to me, classify as "mistreatment."

    I am unsure how the jury came to the verdict it provided given the details I have available. Unless I'm missing something I simply can't agree with the verdict.

    Anecdote: I once requested PO assistance with a customer who was theater hopping. When I confronted him he refused to leave and started running around the building, slamming into other patrons and causing a disturbance. When the PO got involved, the kid panicked and took a swing at the officer. The officer grabbed the punching arm, swung it behind the kid's back while simultaneously using his other hand to grab the kid by the "scruff" of his neck. In this position the officer swept the kid's feet and he went down relatively hard onto the pavement.

    The kid's father managed to stir up an investigation of the officer's actions on claims of excessive force. When I was asked to provide my statement I relayed the above observation almost verbatim. The officer was cleared of the accusations and the kid ended up with a conviction for his attempted assault on the cop.

    What the cop did in my scenario was instinctive and forceful, but it was done in response to a direct thread from the kid, who was about 16. The cops in the video in the OP far exceeded any necessary response to a threat that didn't, at the time of their assault, exist.
    What you describe in your anecdote is perfectly reasonable, IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Even though I just made an observation...that these types of stories are more prevelant than normal....police abuse is pretty related to the topic on hand...
    I think they're seeming to become more prevalent, not because they're increasing, but because of the expansion of video and the information age. We're simply learning of them more than we used to. Video is proving to be a double-edged sword for LE. It helps protect them against bogus claims of abuse, and that's good, but it also is serving to catch them when they themselves cross the line... which is good as well.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Ummm...probably would of put on the cuffs and took him to jail. Once the guy is lying on the ground face down with his arms out he's not posing much of a threat is he? It's common sense. You don't gather around and kick the **** out of him.

    There are many ways to continue to beat the crap out of that perp, but once, the cuffs go on, you back off

    Reason why they were fired. They were careless knowing damn well, there are cameras all over the place to watch for.

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    I think they're seeming to become more prevalent, not because they're increasing, but because of the expansion of video and the information age. We're simply learning of them more than we used to. Video is proving to be a double-edged sword for LE. It helps protect them against bogus claims of abuse, and that's good, but it also is serving to catch them when they themselves cross the line... which is good as well.
    No I agree...it's good in both ways. It protects the cops and and in a relatively small amount of cases the civilian.
    Despite Jerry's putting words in my mouth it wasn't a "bash cops" post I made. It didn't dawn on me as you point out it's related to having video coverage 24/7 where cases that once were "cop says vs what criminal said" is now in black in white.
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