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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    There seems to be a lot of this in the news lately.

    Did you read the horrible story of a mentally handicaped homeless beat to death by police? I heard the sound clip and the man is crying out for his dad while they beat him to death:/
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    I want to make this thread into a general cop-bashing rant instead of staying on-topic.

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Why do you think the officer and 3 others were fired over this? You folks think that when someone does something wrong you can just toss any charge at them regardless? This cop was charged with a rather unusual crime: TEX PE. CODE ANN. 39.03 : Texas Statutes - Section 39.03: OFFICIAL OPPRESSION

    Oppression? Seriously? Oppression? What a bunch of bull****. Charge him with assault, or battery, or similar. But oppression? Who would even think of that?
    Why is oppression bullsh? Oppression means: "unjust or cruel exercise of authority or power." The way I read that statute, it does cover assault and battery. If you ask me, based on the video, these officers did abuse their power. Now, they did go through the process of the justice system and were found not guilty and I have to accept that and move on and give our justice system the benefit of the doubt that these men were tried fairly. Rioting in the streets however will not solve anything and if any individuals were to engage in such activities, they should be ashamed of themselves because in my mind, they are no better than the officers.

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

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    Yes we should all stick to discussing your rant against the use of "oppression" to charge the police.
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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by unapologeticdan View Post
    Why is oppression bullsh? Oppression means: "unjust or cruel exercise of authority or power." The way I read that statute, it does cover assault and battery. If you ask me, based on the video, these officers did abuse their power. Now, they did go through the process of the justice system and were found not guilty and I have to accept that and move on and give our justice system the benefit of the doubt that these men were tried fairly. Rioting in the streets however will not solve anything and if any individuals were to engage in such activities, they should be ashamed of themselves because in my mind, they are no better than the officers.
    Meh, the kid deserved what he got. Live like a thug, die like a thug. I hope the cops have a few negligent discharges while facing the riot.

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yes we should all stick to discussing your rant against the use of "oppression" to charge the police.
    I'm on-topic, you're not. Deal with it.

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Meh, the kid deserved what he got. Live like a thug, die like a thug. I hope the cops have a few negligent discharges while facing the riot.
    How did he deserve that? Please elaborate.
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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yes we should all stick to discussing your rant against the use of "oppression" to charge the police.

    How you would have handled this situation. Also, while you are at it, let me know your experience, heck training too, as it relates to encounters of these types.

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Meh, the kid deserved what he got. Live like a thug, die like a thug. I hope the cops have a few negligent discharges while facing the riot.
    What do you know of this kid??!! Do I agree or believe the kids actions should be defended? ABSOLUTELY NOT!! But what if this kid just made a bad choice that day? Does that action mandate a beating from authorities?

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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Meh, the kid deserved what he got. Live like a thug, die like a thug. I hope the cops have a few negligent discharges while facing the riot.
    Am I think only one who is mortified that you are a soldier with an attitude like this? Wow, I'd hate to see what you would do in a time of high stress.
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    Re: Jury reaches verdict in former officer's beating trial

    The statute clearly lists "mistreatment". Repeated kicks, punches, and attacks by several officers once the guy placed himself in the prone position would, to me, classify as "mistreatment."

    I am unsure how the jury came to the verdict it provided given the details I have available. Unless I'm missing something I simply can't agree with the verdict.

    Anecdote: I once requested PO assistance with a customer who was theater hopping. When I confronted him he refused to leave and started running around the building, slamming into other patrons and causing a disturbance. When the PO got involved, the kid panicked and took a swing at the officer. The officer grabbed the punching arm, swung it behind the kid's back while simultaneously using his other hand to grab the kid by the "scruff" of his neck. In this position the officer swept the kid's feet and he went down relatively hard onto the pavement.

    The kid's father managed to stir up an investigation of the officer's actions on claims of excessive force. When I was asked to provide my statement I relayed the above observation almost verbatim. The officer was cleared of the accusations and the kid ended up with a conviction for his attempted assault on the cop.

    What the cop did in my scenario was instinctive and forceful, but it was done in response to a direct thread from the kid, who was about 16. The cops in the video in the OP far exceeded any necessary response to a threat that didn't, at the time of their assault, exist.
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