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    Mexico is just getting worse

    What the heck is going on with Mexico? It seems to be getting worse. Is this country going to just implode? When the drug cartels clearly rule the roost, what can be done? Is there anything that can be done to fix this?


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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    The law needs to square itself away and GET INVOLVED and rule the roost instead.

    But in the US we turn our back on gangs that deal in the drug trade . . . so I don't think we have any answers, either.
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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Legalize pot and grow it in your backyard, then the cartels will be deprived of buissness and will no longer be better armed/funded than the Mexican army and police force.

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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Legalize pot and grow it in your backyard, then the cartels will be deprived of buissness and will no longer be better armed/funded than the Mexican army and police force.
    Wait... get up off the couch, stop eating cheetos and do WORK to grown their own? Doubt that... there'd be a cottage industry of high end pot growers sorta like micro-lot coffee roasters that would do the work. If you wanted the run of the mill sensi, go to BJ's or Costco.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    mexico has always been corrupt and dangerous...I dont see any way the govt will ever get control of the drug cartels...hell we cant either....

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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Legalize pot and grow it in your backyard, then the cartels will be deprived of buissness and will no longer be better armed/funded than the Mexican army and police force.
    So they're our responsibility? Another nanny-nation that we have to support? We already give support each year financially to numerous nations in order for them to deal with their drug-trafficking issues that have grown as a result of our policies. That is not enough? It is not our continuing concern to mother others as if they are incapable of making serious decisions and turning things around for their selves. I guarantee you all our financial support goes to just further the cartels - and not the people whose lives have been negatively affected.

    We have a right to have our own rules and regulations and govern our own laws as we see fit without having to fret over other countries and how it might affect them at all times.

    If we enabled the open use and growth of drugs in our nation then what's next? Just how undone do you want society to become. . .really?
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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    mexico has always been corrupt and dangerous...I dont see any way the govt will ever get control of the drug cartels...hell we cant either....
    Actually, there's a very easy way for the government - Mexico's and the U.S.' - to get control over the drug cartels.

    Legalize recreational drugs.

    Legalize all recreational drugs and allow businesses to sell them to consumers. That way, the drug cartels will have to compete with Big Pharma for control of the recreational drug trade. Except that Big Pharma already has a leg up because 1) they've got lobbyists, 2) they've got marketing firms, and 3) they aren't tainted by massive murder and criminal activity.

    Once legalized, the Big Pharma companies will have to compete with each other for control of market share. Except, unlike drug cartels, they can't do it violently. They can't just shoot whole towns of people dead in order to control a drug corridor. Rather, they do it through good ol' competition and through the much more peaceful legal system. Instead of narcocorridas threatening rival gangs at killing them in the street it will be lawyers threatening competing drug companies at suing them in court.

    And as the recreational drug economy becomes legalized the governments of Mexico and the U.S. will do something that it's people need so bad at this time - to collect taxes on the drug trade. Plenty of tax revenue will come in and help the governments pay for itself. What's more is that less tax money will go to pay for anti-drug task forces, which means taxes can be cut or be used to pay for the prosecution of much more serious international crimes, such as human trafficking and sex slavery.

    So there is, indeed, a way for the government to exert control over the drug cartels, one quite easy to do. That way is to take the drug trade out of their hands and put it in the hands of Pfizer, with distribution rights going to Wal-Mart.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    I think that the best answer would be what Auntie mentioned - let the police get everything under control. But how would they? They have Presidential elections going on right now. I haven't read up alot on the candidates, but are they corrupt, too? Is it going to be just another warm body in that position, who looks the other way while 38 people are beheaded and stuffed into a car, or 9 people are hung from an overpass?

    If this was happening in America, what would we do?

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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So they're our responsibility? Another nanny-nation that we have to support? We already give support each year financially to numerous nations in order for them to deal with their drug-trafficking issues that have grown as a result of our policies. That is not enough? It is not our continuing concern to mother others as if they are incapable of making serious decisions and turning things around for their selves. I guarantee you all our financial support goes to just further the cartels - and not the people whose lives have been negatively affected.

    We have a right to have our own rules and regulations and govern our own laws as we see fit without having to fret over other countries and how it might affect them at all times.

    If we enabled the open use and growth of drugs in our nation then what's next? Just how undone do you want society to become. . .really?
    Our society is already inundated with legal drugs such as Prozac, Viagra, Marlboros, Budweiser, and Maxwell's House. Our society hasn't been undone yet.

    Our society is also already inundated with illegal drugs, such as marijuana, cocaine, heroine, methamphetamine, and hallucinogenics. Our society hasn't been undone yet.

    Use of drugs for recreational purposes has been around since the days when a cavemen found something to eat that also made him feel kind of funny in some kind of way. That hasn't changed, and won't ever change either.

    Let's just go ahead and let people use the drugs they want. Those who really want to are anyways. We may as well take the violence out of them engaging in that trade.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    How did we come into a country populated with other people and take it over? How did we clean our nation up in such a short amount of time to where we are now considered the world's mother?

    we might have been backhanded and smarmy - but we did it anyway.

    They could deal with their issues IF THEY WANTED TO really get it done - but they've let it go for SO long that it's just exploded.
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