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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Which is why I, personally, am an advocate for legalization of absolutely all recreational drugs.

    I admit that I am a radical in this, and so I don't speak for all those who favor drug legalization.

    But my thoughts on drug legalization is that allowing people to do recreational drugs - including extremely hard ones such as meth and cocaine - is less of a societal blight that what criminalization of those drugs cause.

    That's my very personal opinion, though. I'm fine with people getting high with whatever they want to. I'm tired of paying so much money trying to stop people from doing it.
    This is the only problem I have with legalization across the board: With American culture the way it is, what we would end up with is a never-ending string of addicts which we would be supporting with tax dollars. It would become a "disability", and we would be paying for perpetual rehab for basically non-productive people (much more than we currently have on the rolls). If we could legalize, and make it the responsibility of the users to pay for their own rehab, and pay for their own means of living, I'm with you on the issue.
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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

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    Typically about 500 yards away from the coastline if i know Latin America
    Where in Latin America have you had all those bad inland experiences?










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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Which is why I, personally, am an advocate for legalization of absolutely all recreational drugs.

    I admit that I am a radical in this, and so I don't speak for all those who favor drug legalization.

    But my thoughts on drug legalization is that allowing people to do recreational drugs - including extremely hard ones such as meth and cocaine - is less of a societal blight that what criminalization of those drugs cause.

    That's my very personal opinion, though. I'm fine with people getting high with whatever they want to. I'm tired of paying so much money trying to stop people from doing it.
    Im all for the legalizing of all recreational drugs...provided that ANY users be denied ALL government social services.

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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im all for the legalizing of all recreational drugs...provided that ANY users be denied ALL government social services.
    You have obviously never been stuck on a Las Vegas hotel elevator with a meth freak at 2 AM.
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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    This is the only problem I have with legalization across the board: With American culture the way it is, what we would end up with is a never-ending string of addicts which we would be supporting with tax dollars. It would become a "disability", and we would be paying for perpetual rehab for basically non-productive people (much more than we currently have on the rolls). If we could legalize, and make it the responsibility of the users to pay for their own rehab, and pay for their own means of living, I'm with you on the issue.
    We could set up the structures for these things.

    Hell, at the very least we would allow those people who are wealthy enough who can afford their addiction and possible rehab to no longer support criminal organizations. Just because someone is a drug addict doesn't inherently mean they can't earn a living while an addict.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im all for the legalizing of all recreational drugs...provided that ANY users be denied ALL government social services.
    How about we make a compromise?

    Our compromise will be that any tax revenue generated from sales of all recreational drugs will be used for social support programs for drug addicts. That way, collectively as a group, they will be supporting themselves.

    Is that fair enough?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    We could set up the structures for these things.

    Hell, at the very least we would allow those people who are wealthy enough who can afford their addiction and possible rehab to no longer support criminal organizations. Just because someone is a drug addict doesn't inherently mean they can't earn a living while an addict.
    To the bolded: I agree, but alot of folks would see it as an easy way out.
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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    How about we make a compromise?

    Our compromise will be that any tax revenue generated from sales of all recreational drugs will be used for social support programs for drug addicts. That way, collectively as a group, they will be supporting themselves.

    Is that fair enough?
    As a libertarian, I advocate for freedom to do things which may be harmful, but along with that, comes the responsibility to fix your own screw-ups.
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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    To the bolded: I agree, but alot of folks would see it as an easy way out.
    Then let's build together a society in which people don't feel they need to take drugs as an easy way out.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Mexico is just getting worse

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    As a libertarian, I advocate for freedom to do things which may be harmful, but along with that, comes the responsibility to fix your own screw-ups.
    I'm an anarcho-syndicalist and understand that economies of scale are a good thing. So we can attain them in regards to social support by having them pay for it collectively. We could also ban such social programs from achieving funding in any way other than through taxes on these drugs. That way, other people won't be paying for social programs to drug users as a whole.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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