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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/bu...EUB9uA5C7RvZyw



    "No one told me that." Did you not learn such basic things as to figure out total cost and payments in high school? Good grief, take some responsibility for your own choices.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
    I think it's a shared fault.

    Fault of parents who cosign loans and encourage their children to overlook common sense (cost being one such thing)
    Fault of students who want to attend high cost schools and are making might adult decisions without handling it maturely
    Fault of schools for treating potential students as customers and not students.


    Right now I'm at a fork in the road: take out massive school loans to cover living expenses and school expenses for the next 3 years. Or leave school - pursue our business plan without a degree - and self-educate what I have yet to learn as best as possible.

    I'm taking the later-path: we're already paying a considerable amount each month for my husband's OLD student loans - I'd much rather add a business loan and a business oportunity onto that than just another mass of student loans is an uncertain future far in the distance.
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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
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    "No one told me that." Did you not learn such basic things as to figure out total cost and payments in high school? Good grief, take some responsibility for your own choices.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
    Most Americans, when it comes to finances are complete idiots.
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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I went to a private university and graduated debt free. That was in 1964.
    I went to a public university for an MA, paid no tuition, and graduated for about $200. That was in '73.

    I think things have changed a bit, and not for the better.

    Now, we could blame the student for the lack of jobs. It would be totally illogical to do so, but we could. We could blame them for the high cost of tuition, and the lack of jobs that pay enough to earn your way through college, too. That would also be illogical.

    It's not today's youth that has made a mess of things, now is it?
    Of course not, but that's probably not what anyone's really arguing. Each student entering higher ed has a choice to invest a certain amount of money in exchange for some sort of expected return. A fine arts degree from a private college in exchange for six figures of debt is not a smart investment decision, generally speaking, and it is up to each individual to recognize not-smart investment decisions like that. Six figures of debt in exchange for a medical degree or engineering degree is probably a better investment move. It's not students' fault if a college charges astronomical tuition, but it's the student (and family's) responsibility to carefully consider the costs v. benefits of actually paying it. There is a point at which college is so expensive that it's not worth it to attend. Like any investment, if the price is too high, you don't pay it.

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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    They didn't blame the student...?
    Um, pointing out the lack of people to think ahead and then take responsibility for their decisions is not blaming them for the cost schools charge.
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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    We put our kids thru college, state schools, none of that private Ivy league crap....
    It is the best thing you can give your kids in this era, a paid for college degree in a major that makes them employable.....
    What's worse, most kids these days are coming out of college with a degree and absolutely zero actual work experience. Most of them have never had a serious job in their lives, they've demonstrated no work ethic, they think that just because they have that piece of paper in their hand, they deserve a high-paying job.

    Sorry, paper or no, they're just not qualified. Back in the day, we worked all the way through high school and college, we paid our own way and when it came time to take our newly minted degree out for a good job, we had a decent work history to put on our resume that proved we were not only educated, but responsible as well.
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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Um, pointing out the lack of people to think ahead and then take responsibility for their decisions is not blaming them for the cost schools charge.
    Um, harping on about the choices a student makes in financing their college education has little to do with the soaring cost of college.

    And here I thought you were the expert on deciphering sarcasm.
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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, harping on about the choices a student makes in financing their college education has little to do with the soaring cost of college.
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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

    I'm sick of these cry baby's thinking someone owes them a college education. When I was a kid we worried about real problems, like getting drafted and sent to Nam, cry me a ****** river punks.

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    Re: A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    What's worse, most kids these days are coming out of college with a degree and absolutely zero actual work experience. Most of them have never had a serious job in their lives, they've demonstrated no work ethic, they think that just because they have that piece of paper in their hand, they deserve a high-paying job.

    Sorry, paper or no, they're just not qualified. Back in the day, we worked all the way through high school and college, we paid our own way and when it came time to take our newly minted degree out for a good job, we had a decent work history to put on our resume that proved we were not only educated, but responsible as well.
    The amount of time students spend working has been of increasing concern for the
    educators that serve them and, in some instances, the students themselves. Recent
    data would indicate that 80% of American undergraduates worked while attending
    college in 1999-2000 (King, 2003).This represents an 8% increase over the class less
    than a decade previously, among whom 72% worked (Cuccaro-Alamin & Choy,
    1998)

    http://www.indiana.edu/~ipas1/workingstudentbrief.pdf
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