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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    What else could it possibly be? You're saying that they want legal acceptance through legislation? LOL Really?


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    I dont see that is so hard to believe.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    I dont see that is so hard to believe.
    Of course it's not.. That's the point!

    They want legal acceptance through legislation.. What other kind of acceptance would one expect if they sought legal acceptance through legislation? There are a good number of people that are against the death penalty in states where the death penalty is legal. Has the government attained acceptance through legislation or haven't they?


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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Of course it's not.. That's the point!

    They want legal acceptance through legislation.. What other kind of acceptance would one expect if they sought legal acceptance through legislation? There are a good number of people that are against the death penalty in states where the death penalty is legal. Has the government attained acceptance through legislation or haven't they?


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    I apologize. I misread your original post.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    katiegrrl0 said that heteros have this right, but gays do not.Heteros do not have this right. No one does. While arguments can be made that this civil right should be made, it doesn't exist today for it to be an equality issue. No one is being treated differently than anyone else here.
    If you want to have sex with and marry your male friend, you are not a "hetero" or a very confused one in any case, and the fact that you can't marry the person you want to marry simply because your desire is towards a person of the same sex, whereas someone else can if it were towards the opposite sex, makes this an inequality. Why should the sex of the partner relative to yours matter?
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Words are not subjective, if love includes trust 'to him', then he's wrong.
    Words are subjective because everyone percieves things differently from others. Take a look at Christianity. How many different sub-groups are in Christianity? Off of ONE book? And all of those books have the same exact words in it. If words are not subjective then by all means tell me how in the world there are so many different Christian groups.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    If you want to have sex with and marry your male friend, you are not a "hetero" or a very confused one in any case, and the fact that you can't marry the person you want to marry simply because your desire is towards a person of the same sex, whereas someone else can if it were towards the opposite sex, makes this an inequality. Why should the sex of the partner relative to yours matter?
    The question is... Why should it matter? What does homosexual marriage bring to the table? Why should we allow it, and what would be the fallout if we didn't?


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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The question is... Why should it matter? What does homosexual marriage bring to the table? Why should we allow it, and what would be the fallout if we didn't?


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    Why should something have to bring anything to the table in order to be allowed?

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Why should something have to bring anything to the table in order to be allowed?
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
    Yup. However in this case it is broken. A group of people is treated differently under the law.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Why should something have to bring anything to the table in order to be allowed?
    Ok... So then, what's the advantage of homosexual marriage over that of heterosexual? Is there one? If there were no prejudice, no discrimination, and if homosexuality were completely accepted, would the children of homosexual marriages ever feel "different"? Isn't it, or wouldn't it kind of be built-in?


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