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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    I think it's more that he believes part of loving someone, to him, is trusting that person.

    That doesn't mean all cases of trust require love.

    Know how a square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares? At the same time we don't call a square a "Square rectangle", we call it a square with the understanding that it encompasses a rectangle in its foundation.

    Kal seem's to be suggesting that trust, and likely other emotions and feelings, are inherent in a relationship built on love as they come about due to the love you have for that person. Not necessarily that you can't have trust or the other feelings/emotions he may equate with love WITHOUT love as well.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I could have sworn that we were talking about marriages and love in respect to marriages.....you're twisting again.
    No, Kal. He's asking why you equate trust and love together? Jerry's correct in his criticism of your assertion, EVEN in the context of marriage.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think it's more that he believes part of loving someone, to him, is trusting that person.

    That doesn't mean all cases of trust require love.

    Know how a square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares? At the same time we don't call a square a "Square rectangle", we call it a square with the understanding that it encompasses a rectangle in its foundation.

    Kal seem's to be suggesting that trust, and likely other emotions and feelings, are inherent in a relationship built on love as they come about due to the love you have for that person. Not necessarily that you can't have trust or the other feelings/emotions he may equate with love WITHOUT love as well.
    The only way it works the way Kal used it is to suggest that he expects (trusts) that his wife loves him as much, or more than he loves her. He trusts that when his wife goes out with the girls that she remain true to their marriage vows and that she will return unscathed.. If he waivers in any way about that trust then he loses the love/trust link because he can love her, but he doesn't completely trust her..

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think it's more that he believes part of loving someone, to him, is trusting that person.

    That doesn't mean all cases of trust require love.

    Know how a square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares? At the same time we don't call a square a "Square rectangle", we call it a square with the understanding that it encompasses a rectangle in its foundation.

    Kal seem's to be suggesting that trust, and likely other emotions and feelings, are inherent in a relationship built on love as they come about due to the love you have for that person. Not necessarily that you can't have trust or the other feelings/emotions he may equate with love WITHOUT love as well.
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I could have sworn that we were talking about marriages and love in respect to marriages.....you're twisting again.
    To the best of my knowledge those Oshkosh contractors had no intention of marrying me. It's been a long, lonely year, though, so who knows....

    Unlike love, there is only one kind of trust. If you can trust someone with your wallet then you can also trust them with anything else in your life.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think it's more that he believes part of loving someone, to him, is trusting that person.

    That doesn't mean all cases of trust require love.

    Know how a square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares? At the same time we don't call a square a "Square rectangle", we call it a square with the understanding that it encompasses a rectangle in its foundation.

    Kal seem's to be suggesting that trust, and likely other emotions and feelings, are inherent in a relationship built on love as they come about due to the love you have for that person. Not necessarily that you can't have trust or the other feelings/emotions he may equate with love WITHOUT love as well.
    I'm not tracking the square/triangle thing, but if these meanings are so subjective, then surly folks can see the importance in clarifying their own subjective meaning when they make a statement about emotion. Maybe Kal has no experience relying on someone he doesn't have affection for, or still feeling attached to someone he has no confidence in, but not everyone in the world is Kal, and he should realize that.

    That's assuming the meanings are subjective, which I maintain they are not, and refer the causal reader to the dictionary for objective meanings for any word.
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    The real problem that no one wants to talk about is the fact that the gay efficacy groups don't only want access to marriage and every other "advantage" of being heterosexual, they want the world to like and accept them also. Unfortunately for them, no matter how much money gays have or how good at paperwork they are, there are always going to be people that disapprove of homos

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Come on...you have to feel bad for them. They KNOW Obama is playing politics with them, he ignored the issue til AFTER the vote in NC that EVERYONE knew was coming, and even after he declared his verbal support for gay marriage he supported North Carolinas recent decision. It has to suck being a pawn and KNOWING you are a pawn.
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The real problem that no one wants to talk about is the fact that the gay efficacy groups don't only want access to marriage and every other "advantage" of being heterosexual, they want the world to like and accept them also. Unfortunately for them, no matter how much money gays have or how good at paperwork they are, there are always going to be people that disapprove of homos
    I've said it 100 times man: SSM is about gays trying to get society to validate their identity as gays through acceptance.

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