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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    No deary, that IS the discussion WE were in.....pre-harshaw.
    See my post immediately above.
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Uh, no, I didn't say that at all, and I know what the context was.

    This is the "civil right" as defined by katie:






    According to katie, that's what it's all about. And that's what she and Zyph were discussing.

    I don't see anything along the way which separated the "context" of the conversation from it. What I do see is YOU trying to separate love and homosexuality from the concept of marriage, though.
    Well, I don't mind reposting this for you as I had to to get Zyp straightened out too, so AGAIN, here is the context:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Yeah because that makes so much sense. Where is your mind at?

    On topic: I think that this woman did a good thing. As Your Star said, she had a good reason for making a scene as her civil rights are being infringed upon by the state.
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    Which civil right?

    Sent from my blasted phone.
    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The right to marry the person we love as heterosexuals do everyday.

    Again Harshaw, the discussion was not about love, or any other motivation, the subject of the conversation was.....wait for it.....the right to marry, and more specifically, the right to marry someone of the same sex.

    I was not "separating" love from the conversation, because it was not a part of the conversation until Katie mentioned it, and Katie throughout this thread has been emphasizing the RIGHT over any motivation.


    Again, you refuse, like Zyp and Jerry, to keep any semblance of context in mind when posting in this thread.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Well, I don't mind reposting this for you as I had to to get Zyp straightened out too, so AGAIN, here is the context:




    Again Harshaw, the discussion was not about love, or any other motivation, the subject of the conversation was.....wait for it.....the right to marry, and more specifically, the right to marry someone of the same sex.

    I was not "separating" love from the conversation, because it was not a part of the conversation until Katie mentioned it, and Katie throughout this thread has been emphasizing the RIGHT over any motivation.


    Again, you refuse, like Zyp and Jerry, to keep any semblance of context in mind when posting in this thread.


    Dude.

    Like Zyph said, you can ignore the rest of the sentence, but it's still there nonetheless.

    "The right to marry the person we love as heterosexuals do every day."

    What was I arguing? Why the rest of the sentence needed to be there. You want to dismiss the rest of it; I'm telling you why you can't.

    So yeah, it was very much in keeping with the conversation. Why is that so difficult to follow? (Why do I have to ask you that so danged often?)
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    these women committed an act of civil disobedience, in the name of human rights.

    more power to them.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    It seems in this thread many want to debate the words like we are playing Scrabble. They have little to say about the issue of civil disobedience and SSM but they sure do like to fiddle with words. Maybe we should turn this thread into a word game.
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post


    Dude.

    Like Zyph said, you can ignore the rest of the sentence, but it's still there nonetheless.
    I never said it was not there, what I am saying is that it is not the SUBJECT.


    What was I arguing? Why the rest of the sentence needed to be there. You want to dismiss the rest of it; I'm telling you why you can't.

    So yeah, it was very much in keeping with the conversation. Why is that so difficult to follow? (Why do I have to ask you that so danged often?)
    Again, Harshaw, it is the non-point Zyp tried to make, and you two can repeat it as much as you like, but the subject of the conversation in this thread was not the motivation for any couple, hetero or homo, to get married.....THE SUBJECT WAS WHETHER THEY HAD A RIGHT TO DO SO.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    It seems in this thread many want to debate the words like we are playing Scrabble. They have little to say about the issue of civil disobedience and SSM but they sure do like to fiddle with words. Maybe we should turn this thread into a word game.
    um...isn't it already?

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What exactly has this got to do with what I said?
    How does it not?

    I began my sentence with a conjuction, which serves to validate everything you accused me of and then add to it. I'm agreeing with you. How is what I said not related to your post?

    I'll be more spicific:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So you're going to continue twisting what is said?
    YES! That is the the theme of this thread: to lie, distort and twist the facts. This is what the article did, this is what OP perpetuates, and so this is what I'm doing. As my oldest son says "you're playing silly-games".


    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You know damn well that when the phrase "heterosexuals are allowed to marry the person they love" it is refering to someone of the opposite sex.
    Yes I do know that very well, and you know that I know it, so when I say something that seems out of place you know I'm up to something. This isn't hard to figure out.

    The statement "heterosexuals are allowed to marry the person they love" is not grounded is law or fact, as others have soundly articulated. It's a retarded statement, and what do we do with retarded things? We make fun of them! In this case, we play little word games with "love" since no one qualified "love" in the statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    To bring up what you did is disengenous and a distortion of what is actually being talked about, and you know it.
    YES! It was disengenous! That was the point. I know that I'm just another guy ****ing around on the internet, but you think I'm for real. Non of this is real.

    Gays make up 2% of the population, only a fraction of that 2% even care about SSM, and of those who care, half will divorce within 7 years. SSM is a non-issue. It's just a political football we like to toss around.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You are bringing yourself down to the same level of argument as Jerry.
    My argument is that OP lied. Zef is talking about same-sex marriage. 2 totaly different topics.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm dealing with an argument put forth regarding the topic of this thread by a poster. I have no issue with the woman's civil disobedience. I too think it's stupid, but I think in MOST cases civil disobedience is stupid on a personal level. I have no real animosity towards her, nor problem with her and sympathize with her for the REASONS she decided to go about it. However, the notion that it was right for her to do it for the "Civil Right" (American asked what civil right she had infringed upon) "marrying the person we love" (Katie's response to "what civil right") is idiotic because there IS no Civil right to "marry the person we love. There is arguably a civil right to marry, but when one begins to interject the love aspect of things as if that is part of a inherent "Civil Right" one is muddling the argument and arguing an inaccurate point.
    Quoted for truth.

    IMO if folks don't like a law and they decide to stomp their foot, stick out their lip and go get themselves arrested over it, God bless.

    That doesn't change the fact that Mullet was arrested for trespassing, not for seeking a SSM.
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