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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

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    oh, so you're just playing silly games.
    I did try to make that perfectly clear in my first few posts on this thread. Since OP so obviously lied and has no intent to correct it, this thread is troll food. Notice I'm doing the same thing here as I did with the Zimmerman shooting (Hoodie and Pants)? It's a concept I picked up from TheOatmeal's rant against the Twilight saga. It's not particularly clever or original, but it's fun to post and fish for those who go off the deep end.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

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    No one has the "right to marry the person we love"
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    The SC found in Zablocki v. Redhail that marriage is a fundamental right.
    I will repeat this post by Gimmesometruth for your benefit.
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    I will repeat this post by Gimmesometruth for your benefit.
    Thank you for repeating the irrelevant point to my statement that Gimmie already repeated and I already pointed out is irrelevant to my statement. It's amazingly helpful in beating up the straw man that you and he seem to want to hurt.

    Unfortunately though, its of no benefit of me, because it doesn't apply one iota to what I said since I never stated that Marriage isn't a fundamental right.

    Marriage is.

    However, the "right to marry the person we love" is nonexistent under the law.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

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    so the only way lesbians can get pregnant, is through sex with a man?
    If she's pregnant, she was unfaithful.

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Thanks for repeating something to beat up on a straw man.

    Unfortunately for you I never stated that Marriage wasn't a fundamental right.

    I stated no one has a "Right to marry the person we love".
    So you marry your enemy? Who else does one marry if not a person they love. Don't start playing word games like Jerry either. You know what type of love I am talking about just like he does. But he wants to play games with words. Perhaps you will debate instead of being childish.
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If she's pregnant, she was unfaithful.
    If you ever get remarried I hope your wife doesn't get raped...it'd be unfair for her to have you proclaiming her "unfaithful" for the rest of the marriage.

    You know, since you seemingly believe that any method in which a person gets pregnant indicates they've been "unfaithful"

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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Thanks for repeating something to beat up on a straw man.

    Unfortunately for you I never stated that Marriage wasn't a fundamental right.

    I stated no one has a "Right to marry the person we love".
    I don't understand what your point is.

    we have the right to marry..but we don't have the right to marry the one we love?


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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So now you're imposing your own moral judgments onto my relationships. Hypocrite much? I guess gays really do support legislating who and how people can love.
    So you're going to continue twisting what is said? You know damn well that when the phrase "heterosexuals are allowed to marry the person they love" it is refering to someone of the opposite sex. The ones that heterosexuals normally marry. No heterosexual would ever marry a man for the traditional reasons that people get married. You know this, I know this. To bring up what you did is disengenous and a distortion of what is actually being talked about, and you know it.
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You have the right to Marry.

    You have the right to marry for whatever REASON you may wish to marry someone.

    You do not have the right to "Marry the person we love".

    If you love, romantically love, your sister/brother/cousin of the opposite sex, you can't marry them.

    If you love, romantically love, someone under the age of consent or someone over the age of consent when you're under the age, you can't marry them.

    If you love, romantically love, someone who doesn't agree to marry you you can't get married to them.

    On the flip side, you can absolutely and without question marry someone you DON'T love.

    People have the right to marry. No one has the specific right in any way shape or form to "marry the person we love". They may have the ability that, if the situation is correct, they can end up marrying the person they love. But it is not a RIGHT that is somehow universally extended to straight people.

    Individuals on both sides so often bring up the non-relevant and emotional based argument of "the person you love" into the conversation. It's irrelevant. There's a fundamental right to marriage that's been defined by the courts, however there is no fundamental right to "marry the one we love". The argument is one that needs to cease being made in these kinds of stations because it is not one that in any way is factually based nor a worth while argument as to why same Gay Marriage or Same Sex Marriage should be legalized.
    You are getting into state objections for marriage, ignoring what I said, what was said by the OP. You can expand it out as far as you want and to take it completely out of context to make a semantic "point".

    Katie was NOT getting into any of the exceptions, the specifics, you want to toss in with the kitchen sink. Further I already acknowledged the state interest clause.

    She stated "The right to marry the person we love as heterosexuals do everyday.", so your under age, cousins, non-consensual and "anything else in the universe" argument is silly on it's face.

    If you want to get into a state reason for barring the marriage between gays, well we have Perry v. Brown pretty solidly decided and I don't see it being reversed.

    Again, it doesn't matter if it is for love or money or any other reason, you have that right based on whatever your reason...within reason.
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    Re: Lesbian arrested for seeking marriage license in North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Abortion isn't a gay issue unless said gay couples are practicing adultery.
    That was not the point of the post it was in reference to what the poster said. If you had read the post you might have realized that. You today are playing silly games. I did not see you mention the poster who mentioned the abortion issue. What are you just cherry picking posts in your childish way? LOL
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