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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I really dont think Russia gives a ****
    Uh, then why are they threatening a preemptive strike against our missile shield?

    This kinda makes me think they care.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...le-shield.html
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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Uh, then why are they threatening a preemptive strike against our missile shield?

    This kinda makes me think they care.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...le-shield.html
    I dont think this is setting them up after the first successful test of a defense system that is far from being used in a real world situation


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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I dont think this is setting them up after the first successful test of a defense system that is far from being used in a real world situation
    If that's the case, why are we so worried about NK, who has a nuke, but hasn't figured out how a make a missile that can actually leave NK airspace without breaking apart?

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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    If that's the case, why are we so worried about NK, who has a nuke, but hasn't figured out how a make a missile that can actually leave NK airspace without breaking apart?
    North Korea literally has nothing to do with this... Two totally different political systems and situations.


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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    North Korea literally has nothing to do with this... Two totally different political systems and situations.
    I'm not comparing the two, I'm only comparing your saying that Russia isn't worried about it, yet has threatened to attack us, and NK, who hasn't showed a capability of delivering a nuclear weapon, but we're concerned about them?

    I'm not comparing NK to Russia, I'm comparing your example to mine.

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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I'm not comparing the two, I'm only comparing your saying that Russia isn't worried about it, yet has threatened to attack us, and NK, who hasn't showed a capability of delivering a nuclear weapon, but we're concerned about them?

    I'm not comparing NK to Russia, I'm comparing your example to mine.
    The article lists nothing about this new missile defense system. Its the same old talk from the Russians ever sense the cold war. Well if you ask officially we are worried about NK because the are a "rogue state" and we are currently still at "war" with them. But in my opinion i think its all about the fear to make people apathetic to their govs.


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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That's my subtle point.

    The only nation that can possibly pull that kind of attack on us won't attack us. And the alleged threat we're building this weapon against won't use a missile.

    Hence why I call this corporate welfare. It's nothing but a handout to defense contractors.

    Maybe at some point in time it will be able to stop a Russian attack. But that's a long time from now.
    (emphasis added)
    What you're assuming here is the problem. You're betting Iran/N.Korea won't ever launch.

    I hope you're right but considering the size of that bet I'd just as soon do a little hedging.
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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    (emphasis added)
    What you're assuming here is the problem. You're betting Iran/N.Korea won't ever launch.

    I hope you're right but considering the size of that bet I'd just as soon do a little hedging.
    why stop there?
    there is a possibility - however remote - that canada will attack us. using the same 'logic', we should spend our nation's treasury defending against canada's threat
    ditto for britian. and france. can't rule out mexico. yep, we have a whole world to choose from to point at and refer to as a threat, despite that they aren't really - as the ruse to 'justify' spending our nation's (now borrowed) wealth on armaments

    how about doing something silly, instead. let's do a candid, real world assessment of those entities that actually DO pose a genuine threat to our country, its people and its interests, and then focus our efforts on thwarting them


    but that would piss off the arms builders. the ones who fund politicians' runs for re-election
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why stop there?
    there is a possibility - however remote - that canada will attack us. using the same 'logic', we should spend our nation's treasury defending against canada's threat
    ditto for britian. and france. can't rule out mexico. yep, we have a whole world to choose from to point at and refer to as a threat, despite that they aren't really - as the ruse to 'justify' spending our nation's (now borrowed) wealth on armaments

    how about doing something silly, instead. let's do a candid, real world assessment of those entities that actually DO pose a genuine threat to our country, its people and its interests, and then focus our efforts on thwarting them

    but that would piss off the arms builders. the ones who fund politicians' runs for re-election
    If Canada turns into a theocracy - even a Christian one - then we should do exactly that. Ditto for the UK and France. If the Pope had access to nuclear weapons I'd be worried.

    Mexico is already invading, or hadn't you noticed?
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    Re: US downs missile with new interceptor

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why stop there?
    there is a possibility - however remote - that canada will attack us. using the same 'logic', we should spend our nation's treasury defending against canada's threat
    ditto for britian. and france. can't rule out mexico.
    We're already being invaded by Mexico and not a single president in the past 50 years has figured out how to win that war.

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