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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Bummer. But got to prioritize. A few sexual offense cases is nothing compared to an invasion.
    Should an invasion ever occur, I'll keep that in mind.

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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I liked his post because I agree with most or all of what he said.The majority of the 12-20 million plus illegals do come from Mexico.12-20 million trespassing into another country is an invasion.
    No it's not. Especially when they're a) not coming here in a group and b) not coming here in any military capacity. It's hard to take seriously the notion that a bunch of unarmed farm workers and would-be maids constitute a military force.

    Here's a cogent discussion of the history of the term invasion as used in the constitution, and as interpreted by its framers:

    http://www.thesocialcontract.com/art...icle_123.shtml

    An especially useful quote from the above site (which they took from a relatively recent judicial opinion on the issue):

    "In order for a state to be afforded the protections of the Invasion Clause, it must be exposed to armed hostility from another political entity, such as another state or foreign country that is intending to overthrow the state's government."); New Jersey v. United States, 91 F.3d 463, (3d Cir. 1996)
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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    No it's not. Especially when they're a) not coming here in a group and b) not coming here in any military capacity. It's hard to take seriously the notion that a bunch of unarmed farm workers and would-be maids constitute a military force.
    If you're defining "invasion" as "military force," you have a point. But I don't think that anybody means "invasion" in this way.

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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    If you're defining "invasion" as "military force," you have a point. But I don't think that anybody means "invasion" in this way.
    The constitution does, and the courts do. I just posted this quote, but here it is again:

    "In order for a state to be afforded the protections of the Invasion Clause, it must be exposed to armed hostility from another political entity, such as another state or foreign country that is intending to overthrow the state's government."); New Jersey v. United States, 91 F.3d 463, (3d Cir. 1996)

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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Good. The guy's been a walking civil rights violation for decades, and he's been nothing but a useless money sucking windbag for the community he allegedly serves. He's already cost his state millions of dollars in damages related to civil rights abuses and other related torts. So from that perspective this is nothing new, just a large scale.
    I know a lot of people in AZ, and none of them like him...

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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Yet, he keeps getting elected. Seems he is doing something right.
    Something tells me that you probably didn't or wouldn't have seen it the same way when Marion Berry kept getting reelected as Mayor of DC when he was faced with alleged legal indescretions.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Or perhaps it is simply a sign that Arizona citizens are sick and tired of little to nothing serious being done to stem the inflow of illegal immigrants. If you agree with the Sheriff's actions or not we have a real problem with illegal immigrants in AZ and I believe its citizens want something done even if those actions are not always pretty or perhaps even legal.
    It's the scared old retirees that love him that keep putting him in office down there. He's a bigotted idiot who has marginalized latinos and cordoned them off and instead of working with the community to fight real crime, cordones them off out of fear of deportation so that none of them will work with the police to fight the gangs.

    He runs on being tough on crime and then represents that with treating people like shyte as evidence of his toughness. And the old people eat it up and are more than willing to turn a blind eye to all the crap going on in his jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I know a lot of people in AZ, and none of them like him...
    I know a lot of people in AZ, and they all like him. So what is your point? If the majority of voters in Maricopa county (who vote), select a new sheriff, that is the right of the voters. Arpaio is slipping in polls, yet the last I say 39% of Maricopa residence say he is doing a good-excellent job.

    There are those who dislike Mary Rose Wilcox (country supervisor). She keeps getting elected. That is the right of those that vote in the district she represents. Maybe she should be removed because a minority of people in her district don't like her.
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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's the scared old retirees that love him that keep putting him in office down there. He's a bigotted idiot who has marginalized latinos and cordoned them off and instead of working with the community to fight real crime, cordones them off out of fear of deportation so that none of them will work with the police to fight the gangs.

    He runs on being tough on crime and then represents that with treating people like shyte as evidence of his toughness. And the old people eat it up and are more than willing to turn a blind eye to all the crap going on in his jail.
    So are you saying only old people in Maricopa county take the time to vote? What does that say to those who are younger and don't vote? (approx. 12% of the population of Maricopa country is 65+).

    Have to ask why you think someone who is in the country legally or a citizen would have fear of deportation? Seems the only ones who should be in fear are the ones in the US illegally.

    Yep old folks live in fear in Maricopa country. (now get off my lawn)
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    Re: Arpaio Faces a New Sheriff in Town

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's the scared old retirees that love him that keep putting him in office down there. He's a bigotted idiot who has marginalized latinos and cordoned them off and instead of working with the community to fight real crime, cordones them off out of fear of deportation so that none of them will work with the police to fight the gangs.

    He runs on being tough on crime and then represents that with treating people like shyte as evidence of his toughness. And the old people eat it up and are more than willing to turn a blind eye to all the crap going on in his jail.
    I wonder if anyone realizes that anyone calling someone they disagree with as a "bigot" is a fine funny self parody.

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