Thread: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

Originally Posted by digsbe

What does this have to do with SSM? I think the hypersensitive ones are those who cannot stomach having the 10 Commandments displayed or want to oppress religious beliefs and freedom of expression by trying to warp the law into stating that you can't display these things in a public place/



No, but if a student or faculty want to display something in public schools they should be able to. It's shouldn't be a religion free zone.

Imo, public schools should be religious free zones since it's mandatory by law that children must attend school and they would literally be a captive audience to religious indoctrination.

Originally Posted by Thunder

The Ten Commandments were for the JEWS, not everyone else.

when will folks understand this?

There is some evidence that the Ten Commandments predates the exodus and was inspired from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Which is possible since the Jews stole all the wealth from the Egyptians before they escaped to the desert and BoD could have been among the loot. Which is probably why Ramses chased after them....but I digress, the judge's solution to cut down the Ten Commandments looks a lot like Solomons compromise to split the baby. So it could be interesting to see how Christians feel about that.

Originally Posted by digsbe

and it's a public place and should be allowed to hang.

That’s the point. It is a public school. If it were a private school they could put up whatever the hell they wanted. Public schools are funded my tax payers so they can’t be used to push a religious agenda. As an atheist I shouldn’t be allowed to post a sign that says “THERE IS NO GOD” or anything else denouncing religion in a public school, nor should anyone be allowed to post a sign promoting religion.

If you want to rent out space and post religious propaganda on bill boards all over the city, spew it on television commercials, post it on the walls of your home or personal business, I will fight for your right to do so even if I disagree with the statement. But keep it out of public schools and government buildings.

Originally Posted by Sarcogito

That’s the point. It is a public school. If it were a private school they could put up whatever the hell they wanted. Public schools are funded my tax payers so they can’t be used to push a religious agenda. As an atheist I shouldn’t be allowed to post a sign that says “THERE IS NO GOD” or anything else denouncing religion in a public school, nor should anyone be allowed to post a sign promoting religion.

Just so you know you are misusing the first amendment there. What you just said is a common misconception that basically is saying no one can do anything in public buildings that are related to a religion. That however has nothing to do with the first amendment. What it actually means is that the government can't establish a state religion or church. It says nothing about prohibiting speech in such things. In fact, it makes sure it doesn't.

Originally Posted by Henrin

Just so you know you are misusing the first amendment there. What you just said is a common misconception that basically is saying no one can do anything in public buildings that are related to a religion. That however has nothing to do with the first amendment. What it actually means is that the government can't establish a state religion or church. It says nothing about prohibiting speech in such things. In fact, it makes sure it doesn't.

The courts are the ones who interpret the Constitution and our laws and time after time after time they reaffirm the concept of Separation of Church and find against schools in cases like this. Now, you may disagree with their interpretation of the 1st Amendment just as I disagree with their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. Your and my interpretation is opinion. Theirs is law.

Sure they can put the Ten Commandments up there....


Right next to Five Pillars of Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And this: Bhagavad Gita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And this: Four Books and Five Classics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And of course, every other religious symbol that can be found in the US.


Let's not play favorites, shall we?

Originally Posted by Moot

Imo, public schools should be religious free zones since it's mandatory by law that children must attend school and they would literally be a captive audience to religious indoctrination.

Indeed - I was a bit peeved last night when they did a super religious song about Bethlehem at my kid's kindergarten graduation ceremony.

Originally Posted by Henrin

Just so you know you are misusing the first amendment there. What you just said is a common misconception that basically is saying no one can do anything in public buildings that are related to a religion. That however has nothing to do with the first amendment. What it actually means is that the government can't establish a state religion or church. It says nothing about prohibiting speech in such things. In fact, it makes sure it doesn't.

If that is the case, then I have just as much right, if I were a teacher, to make my students bow down to Allah, or worship Buddha, talk like a pirate to the flying spaghetti monster, or get on their knees to Cthulhu. After all, we are talking about freedom of religion here. I think that, with separation of church and state, our forefathers also had another idea in mind.... Freedom FROM religion.

Originally Posted by Somerville

This is about a public high school in Virginia that has posted the Ten Commandments in a hallway of the school. There were protests and the poster with the Commandments was removed, more protests followed and the poster was re-installed. Now it is in court.



Why do the hyper-religious Christians continue to wast taxpayer dollars in fighting the lawsuits which they inevitably lose in court? For example, here in Florida, this past week - Bradford County Ten Commandments monument dedicated

I don't see why we really care that much. Hanging the 10 commandments up in school isn't the worst thing in the world. So long as they ain't forcing you to pray or go to church or what have you.

I don't know, in the end I see lawsuits like this on both sides as useless and we could better focus our energies on real issues instead.

doesn't this belong in the Religion section?

just sayin'.