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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I certainly understand the meaning of "enlightenment".

    Which meaning did you intend?
    I'm the one who said it, O understander of the Enlightenment.
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And do you have any idea what inspired those laws you now enjoy?
    Secular Enlightenment and Greek philosophy......?
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But why stop there? Do you know what inspired all of this?

    The most revolutionary idea in the history of mankind was the idea that the poor, like the rich, had a soul and were recognized as equals in the eyes of God. This is central to the teachings of Jesus, Christianity and all that comes after it in the Christian world. These teachings are still reverberating in the world today. Of course those historical references you referred to are all from the Christian world. The non Christian world is, and was, quite different.

    But as this is not being taught in most schools today many students, and adults, will remain ignorant of their heritage and thus the world around them. They think it all happened naturally, that values just rise up from nowhere in particular, and the traditions they inherited will somehow continue uninterrupted into the future.
    And what was Christianity inspired by? Always, from a purely historical standpoint, religion is manmade. Always. Greek philosophers thought of the ideas of justice and fairness long before Jesus was a thought in anyone's head.
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I'm not annoyed with the Ten Commandments. I'm annoyed that taxpayer dollars are used to promote religion. I don't want my money to go to preaching. I want it to go to killing mujahideen
    The poster cost maybe $5, they can use my tax dollars to pay for it.

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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    I see some of the people opposed to the presence of the Ten Commandments here are the same ones fighting for women to be able to walk around topless in another thread. Why don't you take your own advice? If you don't like them then don't look at them.
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    The question remains before the forum:
    Would a poster containing only the six commandments that have no mention of a deity be acceptable in a public school display?

    At this point in time, all actions, teachings, displays and behaviour by public schools, administrators, school boards and teachers in the United States should be controlled by the decision found in the Lemon v. Kurtzman 403 U.S. 602 (1971), Supreme Court decision which established the three pronged "Lemon Test"

    The government's action must have a secular legislative purpose;

    The government's action must not have the primary effect of either advancing or inhibiting religion;

    The government's action must not result in an "excessive government entanglement" with religion.
    Anyone arguing that the Decalogue must be displayed in its entirety would seem to be advocating for a religious, rather than a secular, cause, no matter how much that same person may claim the Ten Commandments are the basis for all laws and therefore should be taught as part of our nation's heritage. Justice Antonin Scalia apparently agrees with that sentiment: (Why, one wonders, is not respect for the Ten Commandments a tolerable acknowledgment of beliefs widely held among the people of this country?) Scalia dissent in McCREARY COUNTY, KY v. ACLU 545 U.S. 844 (2005) which held that a display of the Ten Commandments in the county courthouse violated the First Amendment.
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's clearly untrue, as pointed out in the examples which were listed.earlier on this thread.



    That is not a quote of Jesus.
    Jesus didn't write the New Testament. Christians are expected to follow the NT as well as Jesus.
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Jesus didn't write the New Testament. Christians are expected to follow the NT as well as Jesus.
    It's the bible, not The Book of the Law of God, so there was never any requirement it to have been written by any deity.

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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    The question remains before the forum:
    It's been answered several times.

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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The poster cost maybe $5, they can use my tax dollars to pay for it.
    Not mine.

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