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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    technically jews and christians as they both worship the same god,with the difference being jews believed jesus was a prophet and christians believed he was the messiah.
    You left off the Muslims. Jews believe they are the decendents of Abraham, so do the Arabs (hint, it's where the name Arab is derived from) just through a different wife than the Jews. Jewish, Christian and Muslim faithes were once the same, the Christians split off at the time of Christ and the Muslim's boke off at the time of Mohammed. If you look at the Muslim faith, with the exception of the so called "Satanic" Verses that were added after Mohammed's death, Muslims and Jews are almost Identical in their beliefs. The Muslim faith is really the Jewish faith, retold with an Arab lead and given to us through an Arab instead of a Jew.

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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

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    Show me where they are running churches.
    Using a government building to proselytise and teach religion makes it a governmnet church. That's not what the government is here for.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zelaphi View Post
    If a christian community wishes to hang christian posters that is their business. Who are you, or the government, to decide outside of your community what others should and should not do
    It was the government hanging the christian posters. The public schools are run by the government. The government has no business trying to take over religious instruction.
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    When some complain about the 'persecution of xians' and censorship of xian religious beliefs in modern America, they seem to forget that they and other religious groups ARE allowed to put up signs and monuments and banners on, not only church property, but in store fronts, along highways - as long as the sign is on privately-owned land and all manner of other locations with the exception - which is what seems to drive some folks crazy - of government land and buildings.

    However, atheists seem to have problems putting up signs, even when they are paid for, for some strange reason.

    This sign was rejected by the County of Lackawanna Transit System
    Inoffensive.jpg

    Capitol One has a website that allows you to pick an image for your credit card but they don't like the following:

    Atheist.jpg
    Atheist Symbol Rejected By Capital One, But Jesus Is Preapproved


    After five months of back and forth negotiations, atheists in Ohio finally got to see their billboards
    entry10-300x138.jpg

    and these are signs that have been paid for by private groups or individual. The difficulty in posting such "offensive and controversial" signs is just part of the reason there are legal objections to religious statements and/or monuments on government land or buildings, no matter which belief is represented. Those who reflexively hate 'libruls' should try, difficult I know, to understand that many of us would and do object to any and all religious symbols on government property - with one exception, on the grave markers of deceased military. The marker and the cemetery may be government property but each marker is representative of that individual who lies beneath it. Of course, it took years for the military to accept atheist symbols on those markers and it was only in 2007 that the Wicca symbol of a star within a circle was accepted.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Why do militant atheists have to throw a fit over hanging the 10 Commandments? People are to hypersensitive, and it's a public place and should be allowed to hang.
    It gives the impression that the government backs Jewish-based faiths. If you believe that the government should not back religion then you do not want that impression to be given.
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Indeed - I was a bit peeved last night when they did a super religious song about Bethlehem at my kid's kindergarten graduation ceremony.
    You think that's bad? When I was in a public middle school award ceremony they made us pray. I stayed in my seat as protest. Always the politician
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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    When some complain about the 'persecution of xians' and censorship of xian religious beliefs in modern America, they seem to forget that they and other religious groups ARE allowed to put up signs and monuments and banners on, not only church property, but in store fronts, along highways - as long as the sign is on privately-owned land and all manner of other locations with the exception - which is what seems to drive some folks crazy - of government land and buildings.

    However, atheists seem to have problems putting up signs, even when they are paid for, for some strange reason.

    This sign was rejected by the County of Lackawanna Transit System
    Inoffensive.jpg

    Capitol One has a website that allows you to pick an image for your credit card but they don't like the following:

    Atheist.jpg
    Atheist Symbol Rejected By Capital One, But Jesus Is Preapproved


    After five months of back and forth negotiations, atheists in Ohio finally got to see their billboards
    entry10-300x138.jpg

    and these are signs that have been paid for by private groups or individual. The difficulty in posting such "offensive and controversial" signs is just part of the reason there are legal objections to religious statements and/or monuments on government land or buildings, no matter which belief is represented. Those who reflexively hate 'libruls' should try, difficult I know, to understand that many of us would and do object to any and all religious symbols on government property - with one exception, on the grave markers of deceased military. The marker and the cemetery may be government property but each marker is representative of that individual who lies beneath it. Of course, it took years for the military to accept atheist symbols on those markers and it was only in 2007 that the Wicca symbol of a star within a circle was accepted.

    So, you want Atheism recognized as a religion?

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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    It gives the impression that the government backs Jewish-based faiths. If you believe that the government should not back religion then you do not want that impression to be given.
    How dare they in a country founded on Judeo-Christian principle.


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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    You think that's bad? When I was in a public middle school award ceremony they made us pray. I stayed in my seat as protest. Always the politician
    OMG!!!! Get the child psychiatrist....You must have been scared for at least 3 minutes...


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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, you want Atheism recognized as a religion?

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    Just how did you arrive at that conclusion?

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    Re: Cut Ten Commandments down to 6?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How dare they in a country founded on Judeo-Christian principle.


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    Really, where does the Constitution mention anything about Jesus?

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