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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So you see enough minorities saying, "I was going to vote for Obama, but since he came out in support of gay marriage, well...sigh...what's the point anymore? What's the point of anything anymore?"
    no. I see this as one-more-thing in community's suffering most heavily from unemployment and a sense that that which was promised hasn't been delivered.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anniegetyourgun View Post
    Then why did he take so long to come out and support this? I find his timing very suspect. For being as liberal as he is, do you really think his opinion on this was evolving or was it purely a political decision?
    Obama is a moderate....remember those, the GOP had on until this week.

    "Washington (CNN) -- With longtime Republican Sen. Dick Lugar going down in defeat, Democrats were quick to paint the conservative candidate who beat him in Indiana's primary as "too extreme."

    The result in Indiana was what Democrats had hoped for, but as the old proverb goes: "Be careful what you wish for, it might just come true."



    Lugar loss could make Indiana Senate race more competitive - CNN.com

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Actually, the black community does kinda pool their votes particularly on this issue. They were by far the determining vote on Prop 8 in California....

    Most of California's Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban
    No they each vote indivually. your race does not dictate your vote.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no. I see this as one-more-thing in community's suffering most heavily from unemployment and a sense that that which was promised hasn't been delivered.
    Well, that's a neat change of topic. And here I was thinking we were talking about minorities' acceptance of gay marriage.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The black community does not pool their vote. Neither does any community. Obama likely will lose some voters to this. He will likely gain some.
    And he will lose any votes in states he will lose already. If he lost a few more votes in Mississippi how does that hurt him? If he loses a few votes in Alabama how will that hurt him? It doesn't so essentially he loses nothing but stands the chance of gaining. This was a smart move. Also if SSM becomes a very hot issue and the SCOTUS finds these bans on SSM unconstitutional Obama goes into the history books as the President who first took a stand. It's win win for him.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Good. It's good to know that the president finally realizes that homosexuals are the last group of minorities against whom institutionalized discrimination is still legel. He abolished DADT (but kinda wimped out by letting the court render the verdict first), does not support DOMA (but hasn't done squat to get it overturned), so we'll see if he'll put his money where his mouth is on SSM, or if it's just a campaign issue.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    No they each vote indivually. your race does not dictate your vote.
    I don't think she said that it did. I think what she said is that by their general history they seem to vote heavily against SSM. This is accurate and by changing his opinion he does risk losing a large chunk of that demographic.
    Last edited by Henrin; 05-09-12 at 07:02 PM.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah... except... they've been making that argument since the Mondale election.

    people become more conservative as they age, and grow in wisdom.
    People might become more set in their ways as they get older, but I wouldn't exactly call it wisdom. lol

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah... except... they've been making that argument since the Mondale election.

    people become more conservative as they age, and grow in wisdom.
    What? There were no laws against same sex marriage when Mondale was VP because in many states, being homosexual was illegal. What you said made no sense. If it did, no one would ever grow past their bigotries and biases. In fact, many do.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    No they each vote indivually. your race does not dictate your vote.
    Birds of a feather tend to flock together.


    Similar measures passed easily in Florida and Arizona. It was closer in California, but no ethnic group anywhere rejected the sanctioning of same-sex unions as emphatically as the state's black voters, according to exit polls.....<snip>

    Indeed, Proposition 8 promoters worked closely with black churches across the state, encouraging ministers to deliver sermons in favor of the ban.

    "What the church does is give that perspective that this is a sacred issue as well as a social issue," said Derek McCoy, African American outreach director for the Protect Marriage Campaign. "The reason I feel they came out so strong on the issue is one, for them, it's not a civil rights issue, it's a marriage issue. It's about marriage being between a man and a woman and it doesn't cut into the civil rights issue, about equality.

    "The gay community was never considered a third of a person."...read

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110603880.html
    Last edited by Moot; 05-09-12 at 07:19 PM.

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