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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Blacks don't generally support gay anything, let alone marriage. It's particular bitter when they hear gay referred to as a minority cause like their own.

    No, the black community won't rush to Romney, but they might well stay home. A lot of folks that voted for Obama last time will as well, and a large faction of those independents will abandon him and actually vote for Romney.

    Obama is screwed, and I think he knows it.
    I don't think the black community is going to vote for Romney. Obama lost no votes that count by making this statement. He solidified some that may have other ideas and he may well have pulled some of the younger voters to his cause. The Red states were not going to vote for him anyway so what did he lose? Not one thing.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    I don't think the black community is going to vote for Romney. Obama lost no votes that count by making this statement. He solidified some that may have other ideas and he may well have pulled some of the younger voters to his cause. The Red states were not going to vote for him anyway so what did he lose? Not one thing.
    The black community does not pool their vote. Neither does any community. Obama likely will lose some voters to this. He will likely gain some.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    I don't think the black community is going to vote for Romney. Obama lost no votes that count by making this statement. He solidified some that may have other ideas and he may well have pulled some of the younger voters to his cause. The Red states were not going to vote for him anyway so what did he lose? Not one thing.
    Then why did he take so long to come out and support this? I find his timing very suspect. For being as liberal as he is, do you really think his opinion on this was evolving or was it purely a political decision?

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Blacks don't generally support gay anything, let alone marriage. It's particular bitter when they hear gay referred to as a minority cause like their own.

    No, the black community won't rush to Romney, but they might well stay home. A lot of folks that voted for Obama last time will as well, and a large faction of those independents will abandon him and actually vote for Romney.

    Obama is screwed, and I think he knows it.
    Um.....based on what? What about gay black people? **** go to a gay rights parade. It isnt all white out there.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    I applaud the president's historic announcement and his commitment to equal rights for all Americans.


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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You do realize that they have been predicting that passing Amendment One in NC could be a good thing for Obama, right? Many younger people are much more apt to come out and vote in Presidential elections. The fact that NC passed Amendment One and Obama is now supporting ssm could very well push more young people to come out and vote for Obama just to ensure that the situation doesn't get worse if a Republican gets into office.

    Despite your personal beliefs, even many religious people are starting to accept homosexuality, same sex marriage, and the idea that civil marriage is different than personal marriage. This is very much true in the younger generations. Obama can easily influence those younger generations about this issue, particularly if he is seen as a role model to them but they just can't seem to satisfy their religious beliefs with same sex marriage.
    In 20 years or so when most of those older folks are dead and gone the younger folks will be voting to overturn that amendment, if doesn't get repealed first. Which is making many people wonder why they needed an amendment at all considering SSM is already illegal in NC.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Hes using it as a wedge issue against Romney. Up until now, Romney could say he has the same position as the President. Now he can no longer claim that unless he goes the same route. I am guessing he will not come out for gay marriage and will go back to defending DOMA, I dont know for sure with Romney, its hard telling.
    The President can't support denying civil rights to gays.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The black community does not pool their vote. Neither does any community. Obama likely will lose some voters to this. He will likely gain some.
    Actually, the black community does kinda pool their votes particularly on this issue. They were by far the determining vote on Prop 8 in California....

    Most of California's Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    In 20 years or so when all those older folks are dead and gone the younger folks will be voting to overturn that amendment, if doesn't get repealed first.
    yeah... except... they've been making that argument since the Mondale election.

    people become more conservative as they age, and grow in wisdom.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Blacks don't generally support gay anything, let alone marriage. It's particular bitter when they hear gay referred to as a minority cause like their own.

    No, the black community won't rush to Romney, but they might well stay home. A lot of folks that voted for Obama last time will as well, and a large faction of those independents will abandon him and actually vote for Romney.

    Obama is screwed, and I think he knows it.
    If Obama is screwed, it'll have everything to do with unemployment and nothing to do with his support for gay marriage. By next week we'll be on to the next great news extravaganza, and unemployment will (probably) still be at around 8-10%.

    That's the drum you guys should beat. Whether he inherited the problem or not (he did), it's still his to contend with and possibly lose reelection over.

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