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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Even this scaled down version of Navy's post is wishful thinking. Would Romney's base go against him on a single issue that doesn't even directly affect them?
    "turn against" is not the same as "not turn out for". Overlay the minority-heavy districts of NCarolina with the districts that voted strongly against SSM and you'll find some pretty serious overlap.

    I'll amend my response to redress - this possibly increases the turnout of the young urbanite above-average income voter portion of the liberal base even as it decreases turnout of the minority portion of the liberal base.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its called religion and the sanctity of marriage that these groups believe in...........It will make a huge difference whether your in denial or not......Ohio and Pa. but have huge religious populations........They are 2 battleground states that Hussein Obama must win......He won't do that now.......Hussein Obama actually carried North Carolina in 2008, he won't now........

    Again I say Thank you Hussein Obama.
    You do realize that they have been predicting that passing Amendment One in NC could be a good thing for Obama, right? Many younger people are much more apt to come out and vote in Presidential elections. The fact that NC passed Amendment One and Obama is now supporting ssm could very well push more young people to come out and vote for Obama just to ensure that the situation doesn't get worse if a Republican gets into office.

    Despite your personal beliefs, even many religious people are starting to accept homosexuality, same sex marriage, and the idea that civil marriage is different than personal marriage. This is very much true in the younger generations. Obama can easily influence those younger generations about this issue, particularly if he is seen as a role model to them but they just can't seem to satisfy their religious beliefs with same sex marriage.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I sincerely doubt it has gained him any measurable amount of voters. I think it will probably increase his funding from the lefter donors.
    Just as I sincerely doubt it lost him any measurable amount of voters. It goes both ways. This just isn't a big enough issue to those already planning on voting, who didn't have their minds made up already.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    "turn against" is not the same as "not turn out for". Overlay the minority-heavy districts of NCarolina with the districts that voted strongly against SSM and you'll find some pretty serious overlap.

    I'll amend my response to redress - this possibly increases the turnout of the young urbanite above-average income voter portion of the liberal base even as it decreases turnout of the minority portion of the liberal base.
    So you see enough minorities saying, "I was going to vote for Obama, but since he came out in support of gay marriage, well...sigh...what's the point anymore? What's the point of anything anymore?"

    That's even more fanciful than Navy's theory.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Blacks don't generally support gay anything, let alone marriage. It's particular bitter when they hear gay referred to as a minority cause like their own.

    No, the black community won't rush to Romney, but they might well stay home. A lot of folks that voted for Obama last time will as well, and a large faction of those independents will abandon him and actually vote for Romney.

    Obama is screwed, and I think he knows it.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    It is a move to gain votes. Regardless of his personal views on gay marriage he is going to state what he thinks will get him votes. In 2008 he thought it would harm his campaign so he did not come out and say it. This year he thinks it will. If it would get him more votes then he would come out and be for anything. And not just Obama, every politician. Say anything to stay in office and keep those bribes coming.
    Hey! Those aren't "bribes", they are "political donations"
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Never met a liberal against gay marriage and very few that are pro life.....I think I will start a poll.....
    I am pro life and pro gay marriage.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Hey! Those aren't "bribes", they are "political donations"
    lol my bad.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Tell me how? He already has the gay vote.........who will he gain?
    Alot of straight people think gay marriage should be allowed.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Blacks don't generally support gay anything, let alone marriage. It's particular bitter when they hear gay referred to as a minority cause like their own.

    No, the black community won't rush to Romney, but they might well stay home. A lot of folks that voted for Obama last time will as well, and a large faction of those independents will abandon him and actually vote for Romney.

    Obama is screwed, and I think he knows it.
    I had no Idea DP was blessed with one so profoundly "In The Loop", that we can gain insight all the way to November.....sweet.

    Almost as good as viewing the links I did not bother to post, due to the irrelvenace of these "Professionals" this early in ANY election.

    Wait till October sport, before you say something that can, and will be reposted.

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