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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Conservatives insist on imposing abstinence on everyone?

    It's hard to predict what craziness leftists will come up with next.
    The big problem is they believe abstinence will be practiced.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The big problem is they believe abstinence will be practiced.
    Where is your source for this?

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Originally Posted by katiegrrl0
    The big problem is they believe abstinence will be practiced.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Where is your source for this?

    Look at which state legislatures have mandated "abstinence-only" sex ed classes for high schools and tell me that any of those states are controlled by Dems
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Look at which state legislatures have mandated "abstinence-only" sex ed classes for high schools and tell me that any of those states are controlled by Dems
    Do you really expect me to do your research for you?? And of course I wasn't even asking you.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you really expect me to do your research for you?? And of course I wasn't even asking you.
    I've done the "research", if you don't wish to do it for yourself, that would appear to indicate an unwillingness to learn.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I've done the "research", if you don't wish to do it for yourself, that would appear to indicate an unwillingness to learn.
    If you've done the research why not share it to sup[port your statement rather than asking me to prove whatever point you're trying to make??

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If you've done the research why not share it to sup[port your statement rather than asking me to prove whatever point you're trying to make??

    katiegrrl0 wrote:
    The big problem is they(conservatives) believe abstinence will be practiced.
    Grant replied
    Where is your source for this?
    following which, I posted:
    Look at which state legislatures have mandated "abstinence-only" sex ed classes for high schools and tell me that any of those states are controlled by Dems
    Actually some of the states controlled by Repubs have no sex-ed classes in public schools.

    NPR
    May 9, 2010

    There's a family-values divide between red states and blue states, two researchers say, but the differences might surprise people on both sides of the political spectrum. The states that voted Democratic in the last two presidential elections have the lowest rates of divorce and teen pregnancies. And the red states had the highest.

    Daily Mail
    Sex ed classes are less effective in red states as teen birth rates are higher, study reveals
    7 Feb 2012
    Conservative states have higher teen birth rates than liberal ones, suggesting that religious views on abortion and contraception may be hindering sex education programs.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Actually some of the states controlled by Repubs have no sex-ed classes in public schools.
    And what has that to do with the statement that "The big problem is they believe abstinence will be practiced"?

    Maybe you should let the person to whom the question was directed respond. She's probably do a better job of it.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Where is your source for this?
    I need a source for my opinion now? Holy crap I better get a wiki in my mind. All you have to do is think about it. More than half the children born these days are out of wedlock. Add this to the number of abortions and you certainly have a lot of ****ing going on. I need a source for common sense?
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Here are the top ten states in STD's

    Rank Primary and secondary syphilis Chlamydia Gonorrhea
    1 Louisiana (16.8) Mississippi (802.7) Mississippi (246.4)
    2 Georgia (9.8) Alaska (752.7) Louisiana (204.0)
    3 Arkansas (9.6) Louisiana (626.4) South Carolina (185.7)
    4 Alabama (8.9) South Carolina (595.0) Alabama (160.8)
    5 Mississippi (8.1) Alabama (556.2) Arkansas (156.2)
    6 Texas (6.8) Delaware (540.4) Illinois (154.7)
    7 Tennessee (6.5) Arkansas (502.7) North Carolina (150.4)
    8 North Carolina (6.3) New Mexico (478.4) Michigan (147.0)
    9 New York (6.1) Tennessee (478.1) Alaska (144.3)
    10 Illinois (5.8) New York (472.4) Georgia (141.3)



    CDC finds stark regional disparities in teen-pregnancy rates
    By Mike Lillis - 10/20/10 03:05 PM ET
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    Although national teen-pregnancy rates are on the decline, the disparities between states are often dramatic, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported Wednesday.

    Some women's health advocates say the discrepancies are indication that comprehensive sex-education programs are producing results for states that offer them, while states emphasizing abstinence-only programs aren't faring as well.

    Whatever the reason, the regional disparities are stark. In Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont, for instance, 2008 birth rates were less than 25 per 1,000 teens aged 15 to 19, CDC found. In the same year, Arkansas, Mississippi, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas all had rates topping 60 per 1,000 teens.

    Mississippi had the country's highest rate (65.7), CDC says, while New Hampshire had the lowest (19.8).
    CDC finds stark regional disparities in teen-pregnancy rates - The Hill's Healthwatch

    You will notice the states that are red dominate the statistics. When you try and teach abstinence only it seems to be a problem. It does not work because people do not practice this method and need to be taught sex education.
    The flame that is between us could set every soul on fire. I would love to take that heat and let's fill the whole world with desire.
    Sophie B. Hawkins

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