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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    a label...can also reduce a person to a caricature
    Most (all?) labels that describe a person do that to some extent, do they not? I suppose it's a good idea for people not to "lock themselves into labels that don't do justice to their true nature" - regardless of the label.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It really depends on if he's "grown," or is lying to gain votes. Note, this is a politician we're talking about so it wouldn't be surprising.

    Personally I detest how politicians tend to lie and "change" their views to garner the most votes.
    I don't see one coming up who doesn't do that. I have no doubt in my mind that Romney has done that too. I also have no doubt that at one point in his life, Obama believed marriage should be between a man and a woman. It doesn't matter to me whether that was one week ago, one year ago, 4 years ago, or 10 years ago. I understand politics enough to know what goes on. I don't like it but it won't change until we are able to get a better educated voting public that doesn't go off of anything they hear about an issue, whether right or wrong.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Tell me how? He already has the gay vote.........who will he gain?
    People who actually believe in respect and dignity. Let me ask you...who is he going to lose? The bigots were already against him. Nice try though.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    He condemns all sex out of marriage.
    What about you Navy.....you seemed obsessed with gay issues. Do you have the same passion to speak out against those who commit adultery and premarital sex? What about heterosexuals that engage in oral and anal sex?
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It does seem disingenous for the pro-gay marriage side to know that their president likely shifted his stance for additional votes. It'd be great if he actually held to his true beliefs; the same can be said for any president.
    I find it rather disingenous that he's attacking Romney today for positions he held up until yesterday. Can you believe how "backwards" that Romney guy is? Doesn't even support same sex marriage! Psshht!

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I don't see one coming up who doesn't do that. I have no doubt in my mind that Romney has done that too. I also have no doubt that at one point in his life, Obama believed marriage should be between a man and a woman. It doesn't matter to me whether that was one week ago, one year ago, 4 years ago, or 10 years ago. I understand politics enough to know what goes on. I don't like it but it won't change until we are able to get a better educated voting public that doesn't go off of anything they hear about an issue, whether right or wrong.
    Romney isn't excused for his shifty behavior, either. It would not surprise me if our president has hidden reservations on the issue of gay marriage. At this time he needs all the support he can get. When it comes to public education on voting, I'm not getting my hopes up. It is what it is.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I find it rather disingenous that he's attacking Romney today for positions he held up until yesterday. Can you believe how "backwards" that Romney guy is? Doesn't even support same sex marriage! Psshht!
    Thus why I will not vote for either.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Romney isn't excused for his shifty behavior, either. It would not surprise me if our president has hidden reservations on the issue of gay marriage. At this time he needs all the support he can get. When it comes to public education on voting, I'm not getting my hopes up. It is what it is.
    I go with what I think will get the best results. I honestly wish the SCOTUS would just strike down all anti-ssm laws and get this whole argument over with. The support is not there for a Federal Marriage Amendment so once the SCOTUS rules that all anti-ssm laws are discriminatory and against the 14th Amendment, including DOMA, that will make this whole issue go away. We might see one or two additional side items, but likely most people will just go on with their lives.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I go with what I think will get the best results. I honestly wish the SCOTUS would just strike down all anti-ssm laws and get this whole argument over with. The support is not there for a Federal Marriage Amendment so once the SCOTUS rules that all anti-ssm laws are discriminatory and against the 14th Amendment, including DOMA, that will make this whole issue go away. We might see one or two additional side items, but likely most people will just go on with their lives.
    Whatever people on Earth want to do.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I find it rather disingenous that he's attacking Romney today for positions he held up until yesterday. Can you believe how "backwards" that Romney guy is? Doesn't even support same sex marriage! Psshht!
    I'm sorry....I didn't hear Obama attacking Romney on this issue. Care to direct us to a link?
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