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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    As I theorized before, this was setup with ABC for him to come out and say this. I am disappointed he is using this to distract people from real issues such as our economy, jobs, infrastructure, the budget, etc.
    Oh there's plenty of time to talk about the economy, it's not going anywhere. But maybe you're right and he did plan to talk to ABC ....yesterday. At least he clarified his position instead of letting the GOP define it for him.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    It isn't a real issue because it isn't that complicated. People just make it complicated, therefore lets distract people from actual complicated issues that we could try and explain with something that is as easy as waiting for a democratic majority and voting on.



    Fair enough wasn't even thinking about the NC thing but when I get 3 damn emails about this one damn comment from Obama, Biden, DNC, etc newsletters then it tells me it is a simply ploy for money like cp said, or a way to charge the base and get people like Your Star clapping.
    It is almost like Obama got that anti-civil union bill on the ballot in N.C. Right?
    It's the other side who has been pushing these civil issues more and more with ballots to take rights away from minorities and women.
    You think he should have waited till Romney threw it at him in the debates?
    Obama ended Don't ask... and he is for equality for all Americans. Romney not so much. Let Americans choose between freedom and a bedroom nanny state. With rules meant to support a dying institution apparently. It must be if people think the State must force it on us, why else would such interference be needed?
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Oh there's plenty of time to talk about the economy, it's not going anywhere. But maybe you're right and he did plan to talk to ABC ....yesterday. At least he clarified his position instead of letting the GOP define it for him.
    He "clarified" his position?

    Didn't he already clarify his position in 2008 when he told MTV he believes marriage is "between a man and a woman" and that he is "not in favor of gay marriage."

    Earlier this week David Axlerod said Obama's position was on Gay marriage was "evolving".

    Isn't it about time America elected an adult to be president?

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    It's about freakin' time...

    But seriously, I don't care what he declares. I don't care what he thinks, feels, or even believes. I care what he does. He masterminded the overturning of DADT, and our military is only stronger for it. If he takes this declaration and turns it into support for nationwide protection of SSM (though it's really up to the supreme court), then he will really support it. Saying something isn't enough. Gotta do something for it to truly matter.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He "clarified" his position?

    Didn't he already clarify his position in 2008 when he told MTV he believes marriage is "between a man and a woman" and that he is "not in favor of gay marriage."

    Earlier this week David Axlerod said Obama's position was on Gay marriage was "evolving".

    Isn't it about time America elected an adult to be president?
    Spoken like a true pundit. lol

    Well, if Obama believed that in 2008 and he believes different in 2012 then that is by definition "evolution".

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He "clarified" his position?

    Didn't he already clarify his position in 2008 when he told MTV he believes marriage is "between a man and a woman" and that he is "not in favor of gay marriage."

    Earlier this week David Axlerod said Obama's position was on Gay marriage was "evolving".

    Isn't it about time America elected an adult to be president?
    Somewhere back there I posted a letter written by Mitt Romney to the Log Cabin Republicans when he and Ted Kennedy were running against each other in MA in 1994....in it he was trying to gain their support by clearly stating the he believed in equality for gays...and, he believed that someday gay men and lesbian women would be able to freely serve in the military, thanks to Clintion's "compromise". However, in 2011 he said he would reinstate DADT "after the conflict ends"(he forgot to mention that when he was pandering for the LCR's vote).

    Real quick: Before you reply with "civil unions are enough"(which Romney suddenly doesn't support) or something of the sort you should know that a "marriage", in the legal context, boils down to a binding contract. The benefits partners have by way of Civil Unions are the same benefits "married" heterosexual partners have. The only difference is that "married" couples enter into a legal binding contract. You guys are seriously up in arms over a contract?! Lets be real here..."married" or not, gay people are still going to LOVE each other. They're going to live together and do all the same things "legally" married people do. Love is the foundation of a marriage....not the contract. You are never going to stop homosexuals from loving each other. Ever. Why cant they be legally bound to each other like we can?

    Anyway, I'm guessing Romney...devolved...since he once felt discrimination against LGB&T's had to stop and now he's clearly taken another position and, I gather by your very own words, highlighting the fact Obama has taken two positions and suggesting he's a child for doing so, that this "adult" we should elect is NOT Mitt Romney?

    Or is it okay to switch positions when it suits your beliefs?



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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
    Anyway, I'm guessing Romney...devolved...since he once felt discrimination against LGB&T's had to stop and now he's clearly taken another position and, I gather by your very own words, highlighting the fact Obama has taken two positions and suggesting he's a child for doing so, that this "adult" we should elect is NOT Mitt Romney?

    Or is it okay to switch positions when it suits your beliefs?
    Sure it's okay but I think you are right, Romney's opinion devolved and Obama's evolved. Thats funny on so many levels. lol

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Thank you Hussein Obama..........With that statement you just lost the election..........You did it to get votes but the problem is you already have the gay vote and you will lose millions of religeous Hispanic, Blacks and Catholics vote..

    What a scumbag this guy is............He runs for president saying he does not support Gay Marriage and then when he is elected he does a flip flop and supports it............
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He "clarified" his position?

    Didn't he already clarify his position in 2008 when he told MTV he believes marriage is "between a man and a woman" and that he is "not in favor of gay marriage."

    Earlier this week David Axlerod said Obama's position was on Gay marriage was "evolving".

    Isn't it about time America elected an adult to be president?
    What an idiotic statement. Some people are looking for any reason to hate Obama. Why don't they just come out and say "I don't like black people".

    Not saying this applies to the post above, but when people make these baseless remarks you have to speculate on what motivates such overzealous hatred of our President.

    The leader of the free world supports marriage equality. The world and the United States is a better place.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Thank you Hussein Obama..........With that statement you just lost the election..........You did it to get votes but the problem is you already have the gay vote and you will lose millions of religeous Hispanic, Blacks and Catholics vote..

    What a scumbag this guy is............He runs for president saying he does not support Gay Marriage and then when he is elected he does a flip flop and supports it............
    Above is another example of the overzealous hatred I believe is motivated by pure bigotry. Some people are just not comfortable with a black man in the the White House, thus they shape their beliefs around their own personal fears and prejudices.

    Add to that, Navy has made many, many posts with a (IMO) homophobic tone. He is not comfortable with homosexuality. Therefore this story in particular brings out the vile rage, hating his President, President Obama with every pore of his body.

    How does an American hate his President? You can disagree and criticize, but how to you call yourself a patriot and spew such vile hatred toward you President, your leader?

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