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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I see a trend in people not marrying and saying they can do just fine without the government involved in relationships though.
    The first part I agree with. As far as the second part I see no evidence of that.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Oh no, he's playing politics! The horror!

    He always was in favor of it, now it seems advantageous to say it. Big deal. That's what you do when you're running for office, which is what he is doing.

    Was anybody who was super against gay marriage going to vote for him anyway?
    The point is -- there is a question as to whether or not it will be an advantage.

    Intelligent people know he took a huge risk -- probably ignored his advisors.

    Intelligent people now respect him even more.

    By risking everything, he'll will it all.

    Congrats to Obama for showing how a leader should act.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The point is -- there is a question as to whether or not it will be an advantage.

    Intelligent people know he took a huge risk -- probably ignored his advisors.

    Intelligent people now respect him even more.

    By risking everything, he'll will it all.

    Congrats to Obama for showing how a leader should act.
    So there is an outcry due to the results in NC, people are hammering Obama to take a position instead of his weak 'evolving' BS, he is taking hits on the campaign trail and needs to do something that he thinks might help out... and you think this is his actually giving a crap about SSM? You think he actually will act on it when he never has in the past?

    Silly stuff there.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah but a lot of Hispanic, Blacks and moderate Catholics might have...They are history now. I can already see Father Thomas at Mass giving his sermon on the evils of Homosexuality.......He will not mention Hussein Obama but he does not have to.
    You are delusional as usual.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Perhaps not in the same homily, but certainly hopefully. The church has fallen pretty hard when it comes to alot of such things; most especially with regards to remarriage.
    The stance of the Catholic Church on sexual matters is hardly a slam dunk among Catholics. I am willing to bet most Catholics have had premarital sex, used birth control. many have had abortions, etc.

    They just don't talk about it. But clearly they don't agree in many cases with the church.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The first part I agree with. As far as the second part I see no evidence of that.
    I see both and usually when I meet someone of the former they are of the later.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I see both and usually when I meet someone of the former they are of the later.
    I don't think I've ever run into any one whose reason for not getting married was because of government involvement.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    The stance of the Catholic Church on sexual matters is hardly a slam dunk among Catholics. I am willing to bet most Catholics have had premarital sex, used birth control. many have had abortions, etc.
    Knowing several Catholics, I can validate that statement.
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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    I'm sure he did this only after seeing polls which backed up his new position.

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    Re: Obama Declares Support For Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I don't think I've ever run into any one whose reason for not getting married was because of government involvement.
    After a bit of pushing they admit openly they see nothing favorable in the benefits. Though you're right its usually not their reason they give up front.
    Last edited by Henrin; 05-09-12 at 09:32 PM.

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