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    North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban - Yahoo! News <-- source


    RALEIGH, North Carolina (Reuters) - North Carolina voters on Tuesday approved a state constitutional amendment that bans same-sex marriage and civil unions, dealing a blow to efforts across the United States to expand gay marriage rights.

    The amendment, which says marriage between a man and a woman is the only legally recognized domestic union in the state, passed by a wide margin. With 95 of 100 counties' results reported, about 61 percent of votes backed the amendment.

    North Carolina law already blocks gay and lesbian couples from marrying, but the state now joins the rest of the Southeast states in adding the prohibition to its constitution.
    Embarrassing. Truly embarrassing.

    And what's worse is when you read the reader comments that follow the article.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Didn't expect different, but that is sad. Another slap in the face to freedom.
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Didn't expect different, but that is sad. Another slap in the face to freedom.
    As I have always suggested, Freedom SHOULD NOT be an allowance to act in an Immoral manner. Once it has become that (as it has in most of the states around where I live), Freedom really has no value anymore. Things like this are what keep the faint Hope alive in me that there might just be enough people out there who still understand Right and Wrong to fix what this nation has become.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    As I have always suggested, Freedom SHOULD NOT be an allowance to act in an Immoral manner. Once it has become that (as it has in most of the states around where I live), Freedom really has no value anymore. Things like this are what keep the faint Hope alive in me that there might just be enough people out there who still understand Right and Wrong to fix what this nation has become.
    What is immoral to you is not to another. How are your views more right than theirs?
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    As I have always suggested, Freedom SHOULD NOT be an allowance to act in an Immoral manner. Once it has become that (as it has in most of the states around where I live), Freedom really has no value anymore. Things like this are what keep the faint Hope alive in me that there might just be enough people out there who still understand Right and Wrong to fix what this nation has become.
    As it has been pointed out, many, many times.

    What's right and wrong in the context of your post is being arbitarily decided by you.

    And then you try and back that up by saying that what's right and wrong should be decided by society and tradition and yet your own beliefs are so far off that you would be considered a deviant by your own standards.

    I'm not really sure why I bother to point this out to you over and over again because you will NEVER get it.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What is immoral to you is not to another. How are your views more right than theirs?
    How about because mine align with thousands of years of human existance and tradition while theirs do not?

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    How about because mine align with thousands of years of human existance and tradition while theirs do not?
    We're supposed to evolve and grow in intelligence....not succumb to thousands of years of stupidity just because it's "moral tradition".

    Remember....slavery is part of thousands of years of tradition too.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    How about because mine align with thousands of years of human existance and tradition while theirs do not?
    Slavery was around for thousands of years and was a part of tradition also. Should we still have it just because its part of tradition? Women were nothing more than property for thousands of years, treated no better than some Ox or Yak or chair. Should we still have it just because its part of tradition? Kings and Queens ruled for thousands of years because of tradition...should the US still be ruled by them...all because of tradition? In South America in some tribes it is tradition to cut the clit off of a woman...should we still have it just because its part of tradition? In other parts of the world cannibalism is tradition...should we still follow it?

    Sorry tigger but "tradition" is not a valid form of arguement as to why you think that your views are "right" and no one elses is. If anything it is a detriment to your arguement.

    So again I ask...why are your views more "right" than others?
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    For the advocates of states rights, this is a victory, if one is truly an advocate of states rights and not just when it suits them. This is how this country was set up. For states to be able to have the kind of laws they want to have. This is the way North Carolinians want to live. Just as it is equally a victory for states to have gay marriage, its their choice to have it and to live the way they want to live.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    For the advocates of states rights, this is a victory, if one is truly an advocate of states rights and not just when it suits them. This is how this country was set up. For states to be able to have the kind of laws they want to have. This is the way North Carolinians want to live. Just as it is equally a victory for states to have gay marriage, its their choice to have it and to live the way they want to live.
    States rights have never included denying rights to others. That is one of the reasons that the Federal Government was formed...to protect peoples rights. So if anything it is the opposite.

    Also Prop 8 in California was a constitutional amendment to California's Constitution. It got shot down (at least until it is appealed...and prolly beyond imo). So don't count your chickens before they hatch just yet.
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