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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    It's pretty hard to interpret this any other way:

    If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)

    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)


    Where is that in our constitution?
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    It's pretty hard to interpret this any other way:

    If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)

    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)


    I thought the Old Covenant no longer applies? Or does it? What about the idiotic shellfish rule? Where's all the outrage about that?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    It's pretty hard to interpret this any other way:

    If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)
    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)


    And yet people do interpret the bible differently. Hell, christians cannot even agree on how many books should be in the bible, and there are literally hundreds of different sects within the umbrella of Christianity.
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban - Yahoo! News <-- source




    Embarrassing. Truly embarrassing.

    And what's worse is when you read the reader comments that follow the article.


    Over half of the voters in North Carolina arent embarrassed today....nor in the other 29 states that have a ban...So I think your throwing your personal term around loosely.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    It's pretty hard to interpret this any other way:

    If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)

    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)


    So in other words even if you don't practice any religion you have to live your life based upon a book that means nothing to you...got it.

    Question....which book do we follow? Just the majority religion? So you're fine with Sharia law being practiced in Deerborn Michigan or does it matter nationally? How about overseas? Do you support the right of the Taliban to insitute religious law?
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which is not likely to happen and in some cases would be a flat out bad idea.
    Explain please.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Off the top of my head I can think of the Greeks and Romans. I've also read stuff about Japanese culture. All were pretty accepting of homosexuality.
    And coming soon...America. Oh wait...we started basing laws on a religion.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Reading through some of this thread, and I'm not going to name names...

    I wish there had been an 11th Commandment...

    "Thou Shalt Not Act Like A Self Righteous Prick On The Internet"

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    As for 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

    The Bible and homosexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Other Epistles

    In the context of the broader immorality of his audience, Paul of Tarsus wrote in the First Epistle to the Corinthians,
    Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, arsenokoitēs, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers, none of these will inherit the kingdom of God. And this is what some of you used to be. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)[28]
    The word arsenokoitēs (ἀρσενοκοίτης) has challenged scholars for centuries, and has been variously rendered as "abusers of themselves with mankind" (KJV), "sodomites" (YLT), or "men who practice homosexuality." Greek ἄῤῥην / ἄρσην [arrhēn / arsēn means "male", and κοίτην [koitēn] "bed," with a sexual connotation":[28] Paul's use of the word in 1 Corinthians is the earliest example of the term; its only other use is in a similar list of wrongdoers given (probably by the same author) in 1 Timothy 1:9–10:
    Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it legitimately. This means understanding that the law is laid down not for the innocent but for the lawless and disobedient, for the godless and sinful, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their father or mother, for murderers, fornicators, arsenokoitēs, slave traders, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to the sound teaching that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me. (1 Timothy 1:8–10)
    Later Christian literature used the word to mean variously prostitution, incest or rape without any single clear meaning – Patriarch John IV of Constantinople, in a passage dealing with coercive and non-procreative sex, speaks of "...many men [who] commit the sin of arsenokoitia with their wives".[29] Other scholars have interpreted malakoi and arsenokoitēs as referring to weakness and effeminacy, or to the practice of exploitative pederasty.[30][31]
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Where is that in our constitution?
    His argument was with churches performing SSM, so the constitution is irrelevant in that situation, or more accurately the constitution means that no church can be forced to perform SSM.
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