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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    How about because mine align with thousands of years of human existance and tradition while theirs do not?
    Actually, there are documents older than the bible acknowledging homosexuality.
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    States rights have never included denying rights to others. That is one of the reasons that the Federal Government was formed...to protect peoples rights. So if anything it is the opposite.

    Also Prop 8 in California was a constitutional amendment to California's Constitution. It got shot down (at least until it is appealed...and prolly beyond imo). So don't count your chickens before they hatch just yet.
    There are all kinds of laws in states that allow or disallow people to do things. I know this seems trivial perhaps, but in some states you have the right to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, yet in many others you don't. I don't know if it is still this way but in Oregon when I used to spend time there, you didn't have the right to pump your own gas.... Yeah, I know I will get blazed for those I am sure, but, States were set up to be able to have their own individual laws for their people to live the way they want to, and it is a representation OF the people BY the people of that state.

    and oh BTW, that federal government of yours currently does not recognize ssm....

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

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    How about because mine align with thousands of years of human existance and tradition while theirs do not?
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    States rights have never included denying rights to others. That is one of the reasons that the Federal Government was formed...to protect peoples rights. So if anything it is the opposite.

    Also Prop 8 in California was a constitutional amendment to California's Constitution. It got shot down (at least until it is appealed...and prolly beyond imo). So don't count your chickens before they hatch just yet.
    The Federal Governemnt was formed to protect people certain unalienable rights. Marriage isn't one of them. The rest is left up to the individual states.

    Marriage is a three-way(tee-hee) contract between two individuals and THE STATE they live in, not the Federal Government. That's why the State can make laws concerning marriage.

    Want to make these "issues" go away? Get the State out of the marriage business.

    If you don't like North Carolina's laws, don't live there. Problem solved.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    We're supposed to evolve and grow in intelligence....not succumb to thousands of years of stupidity just because it's "moral tradition".

    Remember....slavery is part of thousands of years of tradition too.
    So marriage between a man and a woman is stupid?

    Good going NC. I stand behind you. All this "you have to accept gay" crap is disgusting. It IS immoral, and it goes directly against my religious beliefs. Since when do I not have a right to believe that gay marriage is wrong? It seems that its wrong if I don't accept it, but if you push acceptance so strongly, why don't you accept the fact that I do NOT accept it?

    And comparing slavery to gay marriage, I know that when THIS comparison is made, that obviously NO good argument for it CAN be made.

    Speaking of this, did anyone watch Wheel of Fortune last night with the gay dude that won and the remark by Pat Sajak during the bonus round? That was hilarious and even the audience could be heard chuckling. I was like "damn dude".

    Edit: I want to make it clear that I am only against gay marriage. I am not against gays as I know gay people and I wish them the best. I do not wish harm or anything bad to gays, I just do not accept their unions as marriage. I am not against calling them civil unions. I do not believe in "gay rights" as being gay doesn't give you any special rights.
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    So marriage between a man and a woman is stupid?

    Good going NC. I stand behind you. All this "you have to accept gay" crap is disgusting. It IS immoral, and it goes directly against my religious beliefs. Since when do I not have a right to believe that gay marriage is wrong? It seems that its wrong if I don't accept it, but if you push acceptance so strongly, why don't you accept the fact that I do NOT accept it?

    And comparing slavery to gay marriage, I know that when THIS comparison is made, that obviously NO good argument for it CAN be made.

    Speaking of this, did anyone watch Wheel of Fortune last night with the gay dude that won and the remark by Pat Sajak during the bonus round? That was hilarious and even the audience could be heard chuckling. I was like "damn dude".
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    It IS immoral, and it goes directly against my religious beliefs.

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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban - Yahoo! News <-- source




    Embarrassing. Truly embarrassing.

    And what's worse is when you read the reader comments that follow the article.
    Good for North Carolina. Nice to see that their residents were not brain washed by the gay and tranny propaganda entertainment networks like ABC,CBS,Fox and NBC.
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    So marriage between a man and a woman is stupid?

    Good going NC. I stand behind you. All this "you have to accept gay" crap is disgusting. It IS immoral, and it goes directly against my religious beliefs. Since when do I not have a right to believe that gay marriage is wrong? It seems that its wrong if I don't accept it, but if you push acceptance so strongly, why don't you accept the fact that I do NOT accept it?

    And comparing slavery to gay marriage, I know that when THIS comparison is made, that obviously NO good argument for it CAN be made.

    Speaking of this, did anyone watch Wheel of Fortune last night with the gay dude that won and the remark by Pat Sajak during the bonus round? That was hilarious and even the audience could be heard chuckling. I was like "damn dude".

    Edit: I want to make it clear that I am only against gay marriage. I am not against gays as I know gay people and I wish them the best. I do not wish harm or anything bad to gays, I just do not accept their unions as marriage. I am not against calling them civil unions. I do not believe in "gay rights" as being gay doesn't give you any special rights.
    I use to have that same feeling with the word "marriage". As I have thought about it more and even discussed it with my wife, the fact that anyone calls what they have marriage, doesn't make it the sacrament my wife and I shared. They can call it whatever they want because the only person who recognizes your sacrament is god and your partner. Everything else is just background noise. Because a gay couple or non-religious couple calls it marriage, it doesn't make it marriage. Many people live in unions and call it marriage. Not worth getting hung up on a word. If it makes other people happy and doesn't affect me...have a great day and enjoy your "marriage".
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    Re: North Carolina voters approve same-sex marriage ban

    Allowing gays to marry has no flippin' effect on anyone who is not gay.

    I have no idea why people are dead set against it other than religious prejudice and ignorance.

    Gay marriage does not change, alter, or take anything away from straight marriage.

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