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Neo-Nazis elected in the new Greek parliament

On the contrary, I dont pretend I understand the social dynamics of countries I dont live in and have never visited. However I´m sure an "Independent" like yourself is more than willing to explain it to me.

Well it seems just as well you restrict yourself to comments only concerning your own country, wherever that might be.




OK It was President Bush who said it, though in fact he did bring democracy to Iraq.
Jmac in this thread for one.

J-Mac is trembling? Where did he say that?
I don´t really care or understand what you´re getting at.

Frankly, I really didn't expect you too.
 
Brilliant comment.

I'd add the same Conservative Americans are also Christians who embrace archaic Hebrew tribal laws over the teachings of Christ.

The Leftists are doubling down!

LOL!
 
I disagree with your assessments. Europe didn’t loose any more that the west gained after WWII: it was territorial division, which happens after any major war: the spoils . . .

So the loss of half the continent and millions of lives means nothing? Spoken like a true centrist European.

The only people (Americans) who are familiar with Europe are those who have studied and been there.

People like me, for example.
Europe is the cradle of western civilization.

Yes, back in the good old days it truly was. But they've squandered whatever advanatges they once held through centuries of warfare, genocide, insane economic theories, and so on.
When we visits there, one deals with a civilization that has been on that ground for the same amount of time that the American Indians have been on ours.

So it's a draw.

That means that, almost everything we think and all that was derived to form the United States started in Europe.
Yes, and vastly improved upon.

So, they know, they’ve done it before. They have to get along: they’re connected to on another the way we are connected to Canada and Mexico.

Except, as history repeatedly teaches us, they don't get along. It is where World wars start.
Their policies therefore are naturally going to be more liberal.

Electing Nazis and Communists is hardly liberal. It is the antithesis of Liberal, unless you mean the modern liberal.

WWI and II taught Europe that manifest destiny only works in speeches and the US was very lucky that the Indian nation was not more populated and organized, or “the settlers” would have been booted forthwith: Ireland is a strong testimony to that fact.

If they learned anything from WWI why was there a WWII? In fact they learned nothing from either war.
American conservatives offer nothing but a belligerence that made Thomas Jefferson shudder: the “ugly American”. . .

Jefferson shuddered "The Ugly American" Are you claiming to be an American?

American conservatives are a whole new brand of Americans that harkens back to 1933 Germany really, and the world, particularly educated America, can see it like the nose on our faces. That’s the problem.

In which part of Europe do you live?

It’s only about America as much as the rest of the world says it is. 1940 Japan felt the same way as conservatives and still lived in feudal times and we know how that turned out. That’s what happened in Iraq! And it is mind boggling to see that there are people in this country; trying to obtain positions of leadership, as well as their minions who don’t get all that.

Well perhaps not everyone is as clear-headed as your good self.
 
And the neo-nazi wants to close the borders with land minds.

Sound familiar?

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The right-wing future of America.
 
So the loss of half the continent and millions of lives means nothing? Spoken like a true centrist European.

People like me, for example.

Yes, back in the good old days it truly was. But they've squandered whatever advanatges they once held through centuries of warfare, genocide, insane economic theories, and so on.

So it's a draw.

Yes, and vastly improved upon.


Except, as history repeatedly teaches us, they don't get along. It is where World wars start.


Electing Nazis and Communists is hardly liberal. It is the antithesis of Liberal, unless you mean the modern liberal.

If they learned anything from WWI why was there a WWII? In fact they learned nothing from either war.


Jefferson shuddered "The Ugly American" Are you claiming to be an American?

In which part of Europe do you live?

Well perhaps not everyone is as clear-headed as your good self.


Easter Europe was always under the influence of its bigger neighbors. Millions of lives do mean something, but you have to go back to those times and those decisions: we were in no position to go to war again; not matter what George Paton thought. So, to bring that up that up in this day and time is something of a cop-out statement.

So, if you’re an example, show me what you know.

This statement tells me that you have not really studied Europe at all but looked at through your own version of reality and missed my point completely.

No: it’s not a draw. It’s another version of “you don’t get it”.

And Europe doesn’t get along any better that our own congress: but they compromise and that’s what keeps it going.

We took the western system and created our own version of it. As we have seen throughout American history: we ain’t perfect either. So I suggest you do more reading . . . World wars start – on the world . . . Remember; it’s round . . . Don’t forget Japan . . .

As far as the word and meaning of “liberal” goes, you really need to do some reading. (At this point, I’m thinking you’re about 17 or so).

And; I am 100% American, dating to 1765: Officer in the American Revolution in my family; what about you . . . And yes, I try to be clear headed about everything I say and do.
 
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