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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    As strange as it may seem, an economy works or doesn't work in large part because of confidence.

    When people lose confidence, the velocity of money slows. People spend less because they are worried about the future and they want to retain the potential for later. When spending slows, production slows. When production slows, people get laid off. Now they don't have the kinetic value of money because they aren't getting paid. The businesses try to conserve their money, i.e. their potential, for fear they'll need it in the future, but won't have money coming in. So you get a vicious, downward spiral.

    Bottom line ....there's no confidence in Obama. The sad part is....In 2008, Obama won an overwhelming mandate (at least in the sense he had all the power) with a Democrat President, Democrat majority Senate and Democrat majority House and he ****ed it ALL up

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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    And Reagan oozed confidence. Its what leaders do. It was certainly a major part of his success.

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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    And Reagan oozed confidence. Its what leaders do. It was certainly a major part of his success.
    Correct. Reagan changed, the mood of the nation almost overnight. As soon as Reagan took office it was as if America rolled up its sleeves and said "Time to get down to serious business and un****, the bull**** Carter did".

    What followed was one of the greatest era's in US history, and the time when US power, prestige, influence, and economic performance reached its apex.

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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Correct. Reagan changed, the mood of the nation almost overnight. As soon as Reagan took office it was as if America rolled up its sleeves and said "Time to get down to serious business and un****, the bull**** Carter did".

    What followed was one of the greatest era's in US history, and the time when US power, prestige, influence, and economic performance reached its apex.

    Very true, and I believe we can get back there again. But, it can not be with a leader that believes that America is ignoble as a concept.

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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Very true, and I believe we can get back there again. But, it can not be with a leader that believes that America is ignoble as a concept.

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    What would lead you to believe that Obama feels this way?

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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    "President Barack Obama says his goal of defeating al-Qaida is within reach and that it's time to turn the country's attention to domestic concerns.

    Just four days after his trip to Afghanistan, Obama said that money saved from ending wars in Iraq and Afghanistan should help pay down the national debt and go to health care, education and infrastructure. "After more than a decade of war, it is time to focus on nation-building here at home," he said in his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday. The president took note of the agreement he signed with Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Tuesday that shifts security to the Afghan people.

    But he said the nation now should concentrate on economic issues such as tax disparities and government spending.

    "That's why I've called on Congress to take the money we're no longer spending at war, use half of it to pay down our debt and use the other half to rebuild America," he said."

    Obama: With goal of defeating al-Qaida within reach, time to refocus on domestic matters - chicagotribune.com

    Was he sober when he said that? Half to pay down the debt? someone tell him to sleep it off when he wakes up he will find his deficit for this year is about 1.3 trillion. Unless he considers going less in debt the same as paying of what we owe.

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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    What would lead you to believe that Obama feels this way?

    Well, there is more than one thing...It could be how he dismisses the concept of American Exceptionalism, or, it could be how he tells an interviewer that the founding fathers got it wrong making the constitution a "charter of negative liberties...." etc.

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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, there is more than one thing...It could be how he dismisses the concept of American Exceptionalism, or, it could be how he tells an interviewer that the founding fathers got it wrong making the constitution a "charter of negative liberties...." etc.

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    He pandered to the liberal rejection of American exceptionalism (a dumb rejection by the way, because most-like conservatives- don't even know what the hell it is) but includes American exceptionalist rhetoric throughout his speeches. As far as his constitution comment is concerned, can I see it? "Negative liberties" refers to what government ought not do, and does not mean "bad liberties."
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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, there is more than one thing...It could be how he dismisses the concept of American Exceptionalism, or, it could be how he tells an interviewer that the founding fathers got it wrong making the constitution a "charter of negative liberties...." etc.

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    Seeing as American Exceptionalism has become a buzz phrase usually used in place of actual policy ideas, I'll dismiss it as well. Regarding his second statement, if you actually listened to the entire soundbite he was simply pointing out that the constitution places many restrictions on what the government can and can't do, but leaves the interpretation of what the government and state must do as an open ended argument.
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    Re: Obama: Time to refocus on domestic matters

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Seeing as American Exceptionalism is simply a buzz phrase usually used in place of actual policy ideas, I'll dismiss it as well.
    Here we go. Yet another person who has no idea what it is.
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