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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    According to payroll establishment data, that would be correct.
    I fail to see why have 115,000 more jobs this month than last month would be a bad thing.
    That would be the inverse of the various unemployment rate statistics (U1 - U6).
    What are U1 and U6?
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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I don't really think too many on the right are complaining that the President hasn't created any jobs...rather, I think they wish he would stop TRYING to create jobs. He's just making it worse.
    Wait what? You're going to have to elaborate on this statement.

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I fail to see why have 115,000 more jobs this month than last month would be a bad thing.
    Not that it is necessarily bad, but rather it has fallen below expectations of what it needs to be in order to push the unemployment rate to a more comfortable place. In that sense, we need something like 3 million + jobs per year.


    What are U1 and U6?
    They are the various ways of figuring the unemployment rate; the U3 rate is what is considered official. You can find the table that lists them here.
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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Not that it is necessarily bad, but rather it has fallen below expectations of what it needs to be in order to push the unemployment rate to a more comfortable place. In that sense, we need something like 3 million + jobs per year.




    They are the various ways of figuring the unemployment rate; the U3 rate is what is considered official. You can find the table that lists them here.
    thanks for the charts.
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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Wait what? You're going to have to elaborate on this statement.
    All of his methods that are supposed to create jobs...don't. They only spend more money (that we don't have and end up having to borrow) and increase the size, scope and control of government and place more people in a state of dependency.

    I wish he'd stop.
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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I wish he'd stop.
    FWIW, government jobs have been decreasing in all but one month (august 2011) since December 2010, while private employment is increased every month since March 2010 (using revised data).

    I really wish you would stop with the emotionally driven nonsense.
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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    This should suffice.
    Though the information might be there, it's not easy to find.

    There doesn't seem to be a chart for gross jobs added and gross jobs lost from which to calculate a net. I didn't catch whether the jobs added was a net or not.

    As to living-wage jobs, net gain or loss, I don't know if that could be extrapolated from the link's charts or not, but certainly not easily.

    I know a BLS agent .. so I'll inquire directly of him. He has pointed out tables in the past that weren't on the BLS website, so maybe he'll do the same with these questions.
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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    All of his methods that are supposed to create jobs...don't.
    What "methods"? Can you at least name them?

    They only spend more money (that we don't have and end up having to borrow) and increase the size, scope and control of government and place more people in a state of dependency.

    I wish he'd stop.
    What does the gov now control which they did not use to?


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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    FWIW, government jobs have been decreasing in all but one month (august 2011) since December 2010, while private employment is increased every month since March 2010 (using revised data).

    I really wish you would stop with the emotionally driven nonsense.
    And all this time...people who USED to be working...aren't. An increasing number of them have stopped looking because the jobs aren't there...the jobs Obama is spending so hard to create...and failing.

    He really needs to stop.
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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    FWIW, government jobs have been decreasing in all but one month (august 2011) since December 2010, while private employment is increased every month since March 2010 (using revised data).

    I really wish you would stop with the emotionally driven nonsense.
    The 2008 Federal Budget was $ 2.9 Trillion. In 2011, it was 3.6 trillion. An increase by Obama of 24.1% in just 3 years.

    That's more than five times the rate of Inflation over that same span. Yeah. He's really cutting back allright

    The complaint was that Obama is creating dependency, while suppressing job growth. The complaint was spot-on.

    Your post was nonsense. But it ain't the first time

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