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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Jezzuz!!

    You are just FULL of buzz words, eh?

    Investing - More government spending...of money we don't have. That's REAL smart, eh?

    They deem worthy - The government has no right or responsibility to deem ANYTHING worthy. Government should treat all citizens, businesses and sectors as equal. No favorites.

    Kickstart growth - The only way government can kickstart growth is by leaving the economy alone. Keep its fingers out of the pie.

    Revenue can be used to pay down the debt - LOL!!! This is TOO funny!! When did the government EVER pay down the debt?

    Damn...people who think the government is the answer are pathetic!
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    Investment spending while running a deficit isn't necessarily a recipe for disaster, as history has shown us. A combination of responsibly paced spending cuts, and pro growth policies are the smartest way to approach a stagnant economy with a large amount of debt. Cutting spending sharply can send an economy into a tailspin and ultimately be counterproductive.

    Well, it's a nice idea in theory, but some institutions are significantly more vital when it pertains to the health of the economy as a whole.

    False. Demonstrably False.

    The 1990's.

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    When I hear the code word 'uncertainty' I think of business, wealthy, corporations, and market managers really saying, give us what we want and we will get back in the game. Money is being held back, not because a worry over taxes, or new regulations on liquidity, but rather as a lever in the debate.

    Productivity is pretty much maxed out so adding to the work force is the next logical step but a great dance is being done prior to the election.

    After the train wreck that got us here I would think most would be happy it is a positive number, but then again it is an election year.
    You need some schooling. Private commercial business does not hold back investment as "a lever in the debate". To think otherwise is absolutely stupid .... and with a few here .. liberal.

    They hold it back when the risk in pursuit of profit is too high. Otherwise, you can count on one thing always. The pursuit of profit is a constant.

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
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    Investment spending while running a deficit isn't necessarily a recipe for disaster, as history has shown us. A combination of responsibly paced spending cuts, and pro growth policies are the smartest way to approach a stagnant economy with a large amount of debt. Cutting spending sharply can send an economy into a tailspin and ultimately be counterproductive.

    Well, it's a nice idea in theory, but some institutions are significantly more vital when it pertains to the health of the economy as a whole.

    False. Demonstrably False.

    The 1990's.
    Since Obama has no intention of cutting spending after essentially doubling it, how do you plan on doing this with him in office? His solution is tax and spend, he literally has nothing else.

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Tax revenue, along with other sources. That's kind of the point though, in recessionary periods, the government plays an important role in investing in sectors they deem worthy in order to kickstart growth in the absence of private investment and consumer activity. In healthy economic periods, that role is much less critical, and revenue can be used for paying down the debt.
    That is some made-up bull**** right there. When there's an "absence of private investment", there is no better signal to stay away. To even hint that Government is fulfilling any function except croneyism and wasting taxpayer money on those occasions is complete liberal stupidity.

    Take your own money and go out there and find folks to loan money to that no one else will for chrissakes. See how far that gets you.

    Speaking generically, liberalism is business-stupid beyond all recognition.

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Since Obama has no intention of cutting spending after essentially doubling it, how do you plan on doing this with him in office? His solution is tax and spend, he literally has nothing else.
    Obama has included spending cuts in previous budgetary propositions, hardly draconian, but cuts nonetheless. As for your claim that he's doubled spending, that's obviously false.

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There is no question that the unemployment rate has fallen. To deny it is simply to deny reality.


    ITs also idiotic to pretend that more people are working NOW than a couple years ago. The unemployment rate is flawed because it doesn't include those who ceased looking for a job

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    That is some made-up bull**** right there. When there's an "absence of private investment", there is no better signal to stay away. To even hint that Government is fulfilling any function except croneyism and wasting taxpayer money on those occasions is complete liberal stupidity.

    Take your own money and go out there and find folks to loan money to that no one else will for chrissakes. See how far that gets you.

    Speaking generically, liberalism is business-stupid beyond all recognition.
    Made up bull****? History disagrees with you, but you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how faulty it may be. You're essentially saying that a lack of demand and investment is a great indicator of a need to stop investing or attempting to incentivize demand. In the past that's proved to be a recipe for disaster. See the Great Depression, for example.

    Not sure what this has to do with anything I said.

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Obama has included spending cuts in previous budgetary propositions, hardly draconian, but cuts nonetheless. As for your claim that he's doubled spending, that's obviously false.

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    These cuts?

    Doug Ross @ Journal: Obama's "tough budget cuts" in pictures

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Made up bull****? History disagrees with you, but you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how faulty it may be. You're essentially saying that a lack of demand and investment is a great indicator of a need to stop investing or attempting to incentivize demand. In the past that's proved to be a recipe for disaster. See the Great Depression, for example.

    Not sure what this has to do with anything I said.

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    None of the above can be backed up with anything that will survive even a fart-gas' worth of scrutiny.

    Might find support down a rabbit-hole though.

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    Re: Only 115,000 jobs added in April; unemployment rate dips to 8.1 percent

    Actually business isn't investing right now. Cash on hand is very high, banks are stockpiling the Fed money partly because the banks fear more foreclosures will damage the bundled securities they still hold. Non-financial companies are holding record amounts of cash according to the Wall Street Journal. Companies don't need to spend their money when the Fed is damn near giving it away.

    Investing in what right now? If they were to invest in anything it would stimulate the economy and it doesn't seem to be a high priority right now, more like a wait and see who wins the election and by all means let's not help the one not willing to let the foxes guard the hen house.

    But none the less jobs are being added and compared to when Obama took over that alone should make the more moderate Americans hopeful.

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