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    Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death threats,

    (AP) BEIJING - A close friend of the blind Chinese legal activist who holed up in the U.S. Embassy to flee persecution said Chen Guangcheng agreed to stay in China only to protect his family after receiving threats that his wife would be beaten to death if he left the country.

    Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death threats, friend says - CBS News

    Why do we buy things from this country and why was Hillary just there kissin their asses? Just something to think about next time you visit Wal Mart.

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    Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

    i'm not anti-China, and i do hope that their standard of living improves and that they see in increase in liberty in my lifetime.

    that being said, i'd feel a lot better if we were much less dependent on them.

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    Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

    Things like this make me anti China though. Borrowing money from and doing business with a country that threatens to beat your wife to death if you leave just kind of goes against American values.

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    Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    (AP) BEIJING - A close friend of the blind Chinese legal activist who holed up in the U.S. Embassy to flee persecution said Chen Guangcheng agreed to stay in China only to protect his family after receiving threats that his wife would be beaten to death if he left the country.

    Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death threats, friend says - CBS News

    Why do we buy things from this country and why was Hillary just there kissin their asses? Just something to think about next time you visit Wal Mart.
    This is why it is hypocritical of those republicans to be going "I'm patriotic and those commies can eat a dick, **** them!" and then turn around and give them jobs.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    (AP) BEIJING - A close friend of the blind Chinese legal activist who holed up in the U.S. Embassy to flee persecution said Chen Guangcheng agreed to stay in China only to protect his family after receiving threats that his wife would be beaten to death if he left the country.

    Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death threats, friend says - CBS News

    Why do we buy things from this country and why was Hillary just there kissin their asses? Just something to think about next time you visit Wal Mart.
    Something we can finally agree upon.Since I am a taoist I've been well aware of China's treatment of my fellow taoists,Falun Gong,Buddhists,Evangelical Christians,Tibetens and dissidents and I refuse to buy anything made in China.

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    Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

    The Chinese Govt. has demanded an apology from the United States.
    Chen Guangcheng leaves US embassy, China demands apology| Chen Guangcheng News | The Week UK

    The safest thing for Mr. Obama to do is to apologize to the Chinese Communists, and avoid a repetition of his behavior. This will involve a loss of "face" by America, but that's a small price to pay compared to the price than Mr. Chen and his family are now going to pay.

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    Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    (AP) BEIJING - A close friend of the blind Chinese legal activist who holed up in the U.S. Embassy to flee persecution said Chen Guangcheng agreed to stay in China only to protect his family after receiving threats that his wife would be beaten to death if he left the country.

    Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death threats, friend says - CBS News

    Why do we buy things from this country and why was Hillary just there kissin their asses? Just something to think about next time you visit Wal Mart.
    As far as economics is concerned, because it is in the United States' economic interest to do so. Given China's comparative advantage in certain areas, American consumers benefit from wider choice and lower prices than would be the case if the U.S. severed all trade with China.

    Moreover, it is in the United States' broader interest to have a constructive relationship with China, recognizing that there are some signficant differences between the two countries. China is a great regional power. It is also a rising or to use Henry Kissinger's more precise terminology, a "returning" power. Attempts at containment would be futile given China's many other international relationships. Attempts at containment would only risk creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of an adversarial and possibly even confrontational relationship. That outcome would be particularly dangerous if China's relative power continues to grow.

    Having said all that, the U.S. should continue to press China for human rights improvements through diplomatic channels and it should also maintain its commitments to its East Asian allies. Ron Paul-style abdication of U.S. alliances should be avoided. While the U.S. cannot reasonably expect China to transform itself into a liberal European or American style democratic republic given China's institutions, history, and culture, it can and should persistently insist on the more modest and attainable goals of China's improving its human rights practices and respecting its neighbors' interests. A constructive bilateral policy coupled with sustained American commitments to its East Asian partners can facilitate those goals. An adversarial policy can thwart those goals.

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    Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

    This contretemps over Mr. Chen goes more to the question of internal divisions within China than it concerns America. In any event, the Obama Administration has adopted an adversarial relationship with the Chinese. That's the point of his "pivot to Asia."

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    Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    In any event, the Obama Administration has adopted an adversarial relationship with the Chinese. That's the point of his "pivot to Asia."
    The U.S. has attempted to establish a more constructive, not adversarial relationship with China. The U.S. has maintained its strategic dialogue. It has restarted military-to military contacts. It has established behind-the-scenes channels with China aimed at managing various aspects of the bilateral relationship. It has refrained from designating China a currency manipulator.

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    Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

    The Chinese Communists don't interpret President Obama's "pivot to Asia" as well being intentioned. They see the pivot as an attempt to prevent the rise of China.

    Wheels have been set in motion that brings American involvement into Core Areas of national interest for the Han Chinese. This is the type of Balance of Power Great Power Politics that has led to war about half the time throughout history.

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