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Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death threats,

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"...'I would like to say to President Obama: please do everything you can to get our family out,' Chen told CNN, according to a translation of his quote.

He also accused US embassy officials of pushing him hard to leave the safety of the embassy on Wednesday where he had sought refuge for six days after fleeing his home in the eastern province of Shandong.

'The embassy kept lobbying me to leave and promised to have people stay with me in the hospital, but this afternoon, as soon as I checked into the hospital room, I noticed they were all gone,' Chen told CNN by phone."

It appears that Chen, in fact, had a change of mind. The Washington Post has a story that discusses it. In part, the article provides the following advice from his attorney:

“Even if you're not considering this for yourself, then at least for your family and for those that tried to help you, you should try to get back to the embassy and make your way to the U.S.,” Teng told Chen, according to the transcript. “You've done way too much for human rights in China, you've made too many sacrifices. We don't want you to sacrifice or give more of yourself. Please reconsider.”

The arrangement that was reportedly agreed was not enforceable. The Embassy relied on good faith alone. Now, if Chen insisted on leaving after having been warned of the limitations of the arrangement, that was one thing. The U.S. Embassy could not hold someone against his will. IMO, given China's sensitivity to what it perceives as interference in its domestic affairs--a sensitivity that is rooted in China's past when various major powers exploited its weakness and intervened freely--some kind of quid-pro-quo will likely be needed for Chen to be permitted to leave China. Whether the quid-pro-quo amounts to some kind of assurances about future U.S. conduct to prevent similar cases, linkage to some other issue that is important to China, or some other form of consideration e.g., China's expelling one or more U.S. diplomats involved in the case, remains to be seen.
 
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What, china doesnt support foreign dictators... the united states has supported like 50-60 this century...
note that involves training interrogators secret police etc... depending when and where



No, the do creative stuff like overdose them on psychological drugs and blast them with outdoor military grade speakers in a small cell until they start vomiting from induced psychosis after a few hours...

some of them attempt to commit suicide in straight jackets by smashing their heads against the walls because they're tortured in sessions that cycle 24/7

also dozens of 'prisoners' aka neighborhood guys in Iraq get picked up then beaten and die of internal bleeding in prisons like abu-ghraib

those news articles are always the easy ones to forget...



Does china still have a forced abortion policy...?
The US probably needs one... the rates of unwanted pregnancy in densely religious are very high.

Does china still have a forced abortion policy...?

Chen was in prison for opposing it.

The US probably needs one... the rates of unwanted pregnancy in densely religious are very high

And that says all there is to say about you.
 
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Chen was in prison for opposing it.

You actually wanted more chinese kids, you sure about that?

And that says all there is to say about you.

Well yeah, the family structure in those highly religious areas in the us is breaking down, we gotta abort the **** out of those unwanted kids if nobodys gonna teach condoms in school lmao...
 
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It appears that Chen, in fact, had a change of mind. The Washington Post has a story that discusses it. In part, the article provides the following advice from his attorney:

“Even if you're not considering this for yourself, then at least for your family and for those that tried to help you, you should try to get back to the embassy and make your way to the U.S.,” Teng told Chen, according to the transcript. “You've done way too much for human rights in China, you've made too many sacrifices. We don't want you to sacrifice or give more of yourself. Please reconsider.”

The arrangement that was reportedly agreed was not enforceable. The Embassy relied on good faith alone. Now, if Chen insisted on leaving after having been warned of the limitations of the arrangement, that was one thing. The U.S. Embassy could not hold someone against his will. IMO, given China's sensitivity to what it perceives as interference in its domestic affairs--a sensitivity that is rooted in China's past when various major powers exploited its weakness and intervened freely--some kind of quid-pro-quo will likely be needed for Chen to be permitted to leave China. Whether the quid-pro-quo amounts to some kind of assurances about future U.S. conduct to prevent similar cases, linkage to some other issue that is important to China, or some other form of consideration e.g., China's expelling one or more U.S. diplomats involved in the case, remains to be seen.

You make a number of good points. In my analysis of this situation I am influenced by Walter Russell Mead's examination of dynamics and by my wife.

Here's WRM's analysis: China Syndrome | Via Meadia

My wife's father was beaten to death by Red Guards in 1967 during the Cultural Revolution, and he was a Party member. Mr. Chen isn't even a Party member. Mr. Chen's deal was made by the US State Dept. and the Chinese Foreign Ministry. The Chinese Foreign Ministry has no real power. Only the Party counts. There are two wings of the Party for our purposes. I call one group the Hardliners. The other group I call the Really Hardliners.

There is a struggle for power going on between the Hardliners and the Really Hardliners. The Really Hardliners see the Chen affair as a way to weaken the Hard Liners, and to humiliate the US at the same time.

The Really Hardliners have been deeply embarrassed by the attempted asylum request of Wang Lijun, the security chief from Chongqing. This was tied into the dramatic fall of Bo Xilai the Party Chief from Chongqing. He was a Really Hardliner.

The Really Hardliners were also embarrassed by the escape and attempted asylum request by Chen Guangcheng. Now the Chen affair plays into the hands of the Really Hardliners. They are making the Hardliners look weak in the face of foreign, viz., American, interference in Chinese internal affairs.
 
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Hrrm... that'd be weird, can I invoke chinese protection in America?

If you can make it in safety to the Chinese Embassy or a Consulate you will be allowed to request political asylum from the Chinese authorities.
 
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The US is trying to negotiate with the Chinese Hardliners. The Hardliners and the Really Hardliners are struggling for power using Chen as a pawn. This isn't likely to turn out well for the Chen family.
 
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Soon this Chen incident will be swept under the rug by the liberal media and he will die a brutal death in some far off prison cell. It will be called suicide or he may just have a "heart attack."
 
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Why do we buy things from this country and why was Hillary just there kissin their asses? Just something to think about next time you visit Wal Mart.

Because its "free market" capitalism baby!!!!!!!
 
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Soon this Chen incident will be swept under the rug by the liberal media and he will die a brutal death in some far off prison cell. It will be called suicide or he may just have a "heart attack."

Ahhh yes the "liberal media". Those damn turd buckets!











Its corporate media all of em MSNBC, CNN, FOX, ABC, all of em buddy.

Its "free market" capitalism again baby!!!
 
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Reuters reported that China has stated that Chen can apply to study abroad. The news agency reported:

"If he wants to study abroad, he can apply through normal channels to the relevant departments in accordance with the law, just like any other Chinese citizen," ministry spokesman Liu Weimin said in a brief statement, adding Chen was still being treated in hospital.

China says blind dissident can apply to study abroad | Reuters

Diplomatically, this formulation may well end the current standoff. The next pivotal moment would occur when or if Chen applies to study abroad.

In the short-term, China loses nothing. China preserves face by expressing things in a fashion that assumes China alone will ultimately make the choice as to whether to accept or reject any applications. It also removes prospects of showing special favors in stating that it will handle the process the same way it does for all Chinese citizens.

In terms of concreteness, China has only made a promise to consider any requests by Chen to study abroad. However, it has made no concrete commitments to actually grant those requests at this time. Moreover, there's always the risk that any requests might not reach the right parties or in a proper fashion. The USSR often allowed its dissidents to apply for visas and barriers along the way thwarted successful outcomes absent diplomatic intervention.

In the longer-run, a lack of flexibility could hurt China, but that risk may lie in the future and likely in the hands of the incoming successor government. For now, China may have removed a cloud that had been hanging over the current talks associated with the strategic U.S.-China dialogue. China finds this dialogue far more important than Chen's case.

Things could still unravel. The dissident community, Chen and his family, and also major U.S. political leaders/candidates could still find this arrangement unsatisfactory given the lack of concreteness. Establishing trust could also be an issue given differences over what happened when U.S. diplomats were initially denied access to the hospital at which Chen was staying on grounds that 'visiting hours were over.' Campaign-related calculations could also have an impact. For now, China has made its move and effectively tried to punt the issue into the future, not to mention in the hands of the next government. Whether China succeeds remains to be seen.
 
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Chen's best hope at this point is the fact that China does not want to make the obama administration look bad, they want him to get a 2nd term.
 
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Chen's best hope at this point is the fact that China does not want to make the obama administration look bad, they want him to get a 2nd term.

Im pretty sure China could give a **** less about who is pres because we have kept the same policy of sending our jobs over seas to them no matter who is pres.. You really should learn how international politics and the world economy works...
 
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"Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death threats"

I doubt Mr Guangcheng will be very active in a 27 cubic feet cage in a Chinese prison for the rest of his life_

His best hope is to be selected for organ harvest to lesson the suffering the remainder of his days hold in store_
 
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Seems the diplomatic immunity issue with the Chinesse Activist, Chen Guangcheng, has been resolved.

From theHill.com:

A Chinese dissident has been given a fellowship at a university in the United States and will be allowed to leave China with his wife and two children, providing a possible solution to a diplomatic crisis for President Obama.

The Chinese government is expected to arrange travel procedures for Chen Guangcheng, according to Victoria Nuland, a State Department spokeswoman.

“The United States government expects that the Chinese government will expeditiously process his applications for these documents, and make accommodations for his current medical condition,” Nuland said.

The development comes hours after Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the United States was working with Chen to help with his plans and that U.S. Embassy officials had the chance to meet with him at the hospital where he has been staying.

At the same time, Chinese officials on Friday said dissident Chen — who has been at the center of a diplomatic controversy — could apply for permission to study abroad.

Crisis avoided...chaulk up another victory for the Obama Administration. (I know...you're hating it right about now. :D)
 
Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

Seems the diplomatic immunity issue with the Chinesse Activist, Chen Guangcheng, has been resolved.

From theHill.com:



Crisis avoided...chaulk up another victory for the Obama Administration. (I know...you're hating it right about now. :D)

If The Hill's account is accurate, and I've heard it from additional sources but want to see things carried out, it will be good news. My guess is that there was some form of consideration behind-the-scenes (probably assurances or commitments of some kind to reduce the risk of future situations similar to this case). Exchanging something for something is not necessarily a bad thing if both parties attain net benefits. Not only would Chen and his family benefit, but a prickly issue that could have interfered with the bilateral U.S.-China relationship would have been eliminated. Given the stature of both countries and their interests, a constructive bilateral relationship is critical.
 
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As far as economics is concerned, because it is in the United States' economic interest to do so. Given China's comparative advantage in certain areas, American consumers benefit from wider choice and lower prices than would be the case if the U.S. severed all trade with China.

Moreover, it is in the United States' broader interest to have a constructive relationship with China, recognizing that there are some signficant differences between the two countries. China is a great regional power. It is also a rising or to use Henry Kissinger's more precise terminology, a "returning" power. Attempts at containment would be futile given China's many other international relationships. Attempts at containment would only risk creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of an adversarial and possibly even confrontational relationship. That outcome would be particularly dangerous if China's relative power continues to grow.

Having said all that, the U.S. should continue to press China for human rights improvements through diplomatic channels and it should also maintain its commitments to its East Asian allies. Ron Paul-style abdication of U.S. alliances should be avoided. While the U.S. cannot reasonably expect China to transform itself into a liberal European or American style democratic republic given China's institutions, history, and culture, it can and should persistently insist on the more modest and attainable goals of China's improving its human rights practices and respecting its neighbors' interests. A constructive bilateral policy coupled with sustained American commitments to its East Asian partners can facilitate those goals. An adversarial policy can thwart those goals.

Save for the stuff about U.S. alliances, I agree with you.

Things like this make me anti China though. Borrowing money from and doing business with a country that threatens to beat your wife to death if you leave just kind of goes against American values.

You shouldn't trust our media on China, especially when they don't give you all the details. The death threats did not come from the central government, but the local authorities who Chen has opposed, though the report you cite is perfectly silent on where the threats originated in a typical demonstration of Sinophobic bias. China's central government has an interest in keeping him and his family alive. At this point they also have a strong interest in keeping them free. Not only because anything else would be a blow to the government's reputation, but because there are undoubtedly people in the central government who would prefer it if he had never been detained in the first place. Were you as familiar with the history of this case as I am you would know that this was always about the Linyi authorities going after Chen for him exposing their misdeeds.

Does china still have a forced abortion policy...?

China never had such a policy. It is very much illegal in China. Unfortunately, that kind of critical information tends to get lost in Western media coverage. Go figure. Forced abortion and forced sterilization in China is no different from the same in any other country with an overpopulation problem in that it is a consequence of pressure for officials to meet population quotas. The vast majority who violate the one-child policy just get slapped with a hefty fine, which itself has the consequence that many wealthy couples have more than one child because they have no trouble paying the fine.
 
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If Chen and his family are in fact going to be allowed to flee China I wonder what quid pro quo may have been given?
 
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The Chinese Govt. has demanded an apology from the United States.
Chen Guangcheng leaves US embassy, China demands apology| Chen Guangcheng News | The Week UK

The safest thing for Mr. Obama to do is to apologize to the Chinese Communists, and avoid a repetition of his behavior. This will involve a loss of "face" by America, but that's a small price to pay compared to the price than Mr. Chen and his family are now going to pay.

Hi, nephew! Long time no see. At last I have found you after searching high and low in all places. At first I thought you have sought refuge like Chen in a foreign embassy (most probably the Chinese Embassy in Washington) as you use to criticize and attack Hak Kwai ferociously.

Your countrymen would be terribly hurt to learn that you put Chen's face before America's. Actually that guy does not deserve any "face" from you or anybody else. Even if you give him "face", you would still unable to give him eyes.

That guy is quite a controversial figure with dubious character as shown by his wavering behaviour. He is shifting his stance all the time. At one moment, he vowed to remain in China, and at another moment he appealed for asylum in the US. At one moment, he said he had left the US Embassy on his accord, and at another moment he claimed that he was forced to leave the embassy.

To compare that guy with Fang Lizhi is really a big insult to the well-known astrophysicist who was accused by China of stirring up the Tiananmen Square unrest in 1989. One is a village guy with an elementary knowledge of Chinese but the other is a highly educated astrophysicist. Isn't it a big insult to Fang to lump that guy together with him? :cool:

Dissident released, but saga not over
Dissident released, but saga not over

Clinton: Activist Left Embassy on his Accord
Clinton: Activist Left Embassy on his Accord - TIME

The great escape
Chen Guangcheng: The great escape | The Economist

China-U.S. deal over dissident sours, Chen fears for life
China-U.S. deal over dissident sours, Chen fears for life - Yahoo! News

Chen's friend refutes earlier criticism of U.S. Embassy
Chen's friend refutes earlier criticism of U.S. Embassy – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs
 
Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

Seems the diplomatic immunity issue with the Chinesse Activist, Chen Guangcheng, has been resolved.

From theHill.com:



Crisis avoided...chaulk up another victory for the Obama Administration. (I know...you're hating it right about now. :D)

As I said the Chinese want a weak broke America and don't want to embarrass obama with the election coming up. Good for Chen though.
 
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Save for the stuff about U.S. alliances, I agree with you.



You shouldn't trust our media on China, especially when they don't give you all the details. The death threats did not come from the central government, but the local authorities who Chen has opposed, though the report you cite is perfectly silent on where the threats originated in a typical demonstration of Sinophobic bias. China's central government has an interest in keeping him and his family alive. At this point they also have a strong interest in keeping them free. Not only because anything else would be a blow to the government's reputation, but because there are undoubtedly people in the central government who would prefer it if he had never been detained in the first place. Were you as familiar with the history of this case as I am you would know that this was always about the Linyi authorities going after Chen for him exposing their misdeeds.



China never had such a policy. It is very much illegal in China. Unfortunately, that kind of critical information tends to get lost in Western media coverage. Go figure. Forced abortion and forced sterilization in China is no different from the same in any other country with an overpopulation problem in that it is a consequence of pressure for officials to meet population quotas. The vast majority who violate the one-child policy just get slapped with a hefty fine, which itself has the consequence that many wealthy couples have more than one child because they have no trouble paying the fine.

You are ignorant as to how China works and are a victim of their well thought out deceit. The official line of the main government in China is always moderate and reasonable but their local thugs are the ones who enforce the real policy, this lets the big shots keep their hands clean and they are able to say that isn't our policy, those dang local officials are to blame, then people like you willingly go along like good little sheep.
 
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You are ignorant as to how China works and are a victim of their well thought out deceit. The official line of the main government in China is always moderate and reasonable but their local thugs are the ones who enforce the real policy, this lets the big shots keep their hands clean and they are able to say that isn't our policy, those dang local officials are to blame, then people like you willingly go along like good little sheep.

Do you have proof of your claims about "how China works"?
 
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Hi, nephew! Long time no see. At last I have found you after searching high and low in all places. At first I thought you have sought refuge like Chen in a foreign embassy (most probably the Chinese Embassy in Washington) as you use to criticize and attack Hak Kwai ferociously.

Your countrymen would be terribly hurt to learn that you put Chen's face before America's. Actually that guy does not deserve any "face" from you or anybody else. Even if you give him "face", you would still unable to give him eyes.

That guy is quite a controversial figure with dubious character as shown by his wavering behaviour. He is shifting his stance all the time. At one moment, he vowed to remain in China, and at another moment he appealed for asylum in the US. At one moment, he said he had left the US Embassy on his accord, and at another moment he claimed that he was forced to leave the embassy.

To compare that guy with Fang Lizhi is really a big insult to the well-known astrophysicist who was accused by China of stirring up the Tiananmen Square unrest in 1989. One is a village guy with an elementary knowledge of Chinese but the other is a highly educated astrophysicist. Isn't it a big insult to Fang to lump that guy together with him? :cool:

Dissident released, but saga not over
Dissident released, but saga not over

Clinton: Activist Left Embassy on his Accord
Clinton: Activist Left Embassy on his Accord - TIME

The great escape
Chen Guangcheng: The great escape | The Economist

China-U.S. deal over dissident sours, Chen fears for life
China-U.S. deal over dissident sours, Chen fears for life - Yahoo! News

Chen's friend refutes earlier criticism of U.S. Embassy
Chen's friend refutes earlier criticism of U.S. Embassy – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

Hello Esteemed Uncle,

It's good to see you again. You are as opinionated as ever.

No one comes out of this affair looking good. The most interesting aspect is the internal struggle within the Party. Sort of reminds me of the inter Party struggles of the past. Hopefully, I'm mistaken.

Between the security chief in Chongquing and Mr. Chen it seems like the US Embassy and Consulates have become involved in political disputes in China. The Beijing Daily is saying very bad things about Ambassador Locke.

I think I'm more Chinese than Ambassador Locke. :)
 
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....The Beijing Daily is saying very bad things about Ambassador Locke....

The Chen Guangcheng affair has embarrassingly exposed the paralysis of the Chinese government apparatus. I think the Chinese government would have liked to send a high-ranking official like Wen Jiabao to attend to Chen personally. Before they could take any concrete action, Ambassador Locke sped like Speedy Gonzales to assist the wheelchair-bound Chen in the full glare of the Chinese public and the whole world.

In contrast, the Chinese government is as lethargic as Speedy Gonzales' cousin, Slowpoke Rodriguez. Locke's speedy reaction could have embarrassed and infuriated the Chinese government. This may explain the Chinese state newspaper's criticism of him.

In its contemporary history, China has produced such peculiar things as barefoot doctors, barefoot lawyers and Jesus' brother. Just think of a free offer of travelling all the way from China to America in a plane flown by a "barefoot pilot". Any taker?

Speedy Gonzales
Speedy Gonzales - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

....I think I'm more Chinese than Ambassador Locke. :)

Ambassador Locke seems to have an identity problem in China. On the one hand, he claims to be so proud of his Chinese ancestry, the Chinese cultures and values. On the other hand, he said it is good that he cannot speak mandarin well.

Hak Kwai should have appointed you Ambassador to China. At least you don't have the "Chinese face" problem when dealing with the Chinese. When the Chinese look at US Ambassador Albert's face, they will know that you are clearly a representative of the United States government even though you think you are more Chinese than Ambassador Locke.

As you are a fierce critic of Hak Kwai, he will never appoint you the next US Ambassador to China even if China demands the US to replace Locke. However, there is still one way to poke your nose into China's affairs on behalf of the US government, i.e. by setting up a rival non-profit religious group to help activists to escape from China. You should know that at the end of the day, the US Congress will trust a White American more than a Chinese American. :lol:

Despite Chinese face, I represent America: Gary Locke
Despite Chinese face, I represent America: Gary Locke - People's Daily Online
 
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You are ignorant as to how China works and are a victim of their well thought out deceit. The official line of the main government in China is always moderate and reasonable but their local thugs are the ones who enforce the real policy, this lets the big shots keep their hands clean and they are able to say that isn't our policy, those dang local officials are to blame, then people like you willingly go along like good little sheep.
Actually, this is the policy of any and all governments whose primary goal is self preservation rather than serving the people they presumably represent__Does this sound familiar to anyone???

Think about it__Every time a US government agency or bureaucracy is exposed for it's transgressions, our elected representatives make public displays of shock and disgust, yet nothing changes.
 
Re: Activist Chen Guangcheng chose to stay in China to protect family from death thre

The Chen Guangcheng affair has embarrassingly exposed the paralysis of the Chinese government apparatus. I think the Chinese government would have liked to send a high-ranking official like Wen Jiabao to attend to Chen personally. Before they could take any concrete action, Ambassador Locke sped like Speedy Gonzales to assist the wheelchair-bound Chen in the full glare of the Chinese public and the whole world.

In contrast, the Chinese government is as lethargic as Speedy Gonzales' cousin, Slowpoke Rodriguez. Locke's speedy reaction could have embarrassed and infuriated the Chinese government. This may explain the Chinese state newspaper's criticism of him.

In its contemporary history, China has produced such peculiar things as barefoot doctors, barefoot lawyers and Jesus' brother. Just think of a free offer of travelling all the way from China to America in a plane flown by a "barefoot pilot". Any taker?

Speedy Gonzales
Speedy Gonzales - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Ambassador Locke seems to have an identity problem in China. On the one hand, he claims to be so proud of his Chinese ancestry, the Chinese cultures and values. On the other hand, he said it is good that he cannot speak mandarin well.

Hak Kwai should have appointed you Ambassador to China. At least you don't have the "Chinese face" problem when dealing with the Chinese. When the Chinese look at US Ambassador Albert's face, they will know that you are clearly a representative of the United States government even though you think you are more Chinese than Ambassador Locke.

As you are a fierce critic of Hak Kwai, he will never appoint you the next US Ambassador to China even if China demands the US to replace Locke. However, there is still one way to poke your nose into China's affairs on behalf of the US government, i.e. by setting up a rival non-profit religious group to help activists to escape from China. You should know that at the end of the day, the US Congress will trust a White American more than a Chinese American. :lol:

Despite Chinese face, I represent America: Gary Locke
Despite Chinese face, I represent America: Gary Locke - People's Daily Online

Ambassador Gary Locke's actions in the Chen affair should render him persona non grata in China. But diplomatic etiquette these days is hard to predict.

Mr. Locke has no friends among conservative Americans. Now he has no friends among the Han Chinese. Sooner or later he'll come back to America, write a book and make a lot of money. That's the way things work over here now.

With respect to Mr. Chen, local security officers in Shandong are scooping up his relatives and friends. There are some nasty days ahead for those folks.
 
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