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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    I guess that is the so called debate of the future....Parse to the smallest perceived point, then disseminate it dishonestly, and repeat until you can claim it as fact...

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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No kidding. I never claimed otherwise.
    I wasn't responding to you, champ.
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and yet you are unable/unwilling to explain to us why the gay romney spokesmodel stepped down from his new appointment
    after discounting the reasons that have been offered
    one must then conclude that you prefer to ignore the facts
    What I "discounted" was exactly what I said I discounted. You really should learn to read.
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    In the case of the vast majority of politicians you can just disregard everything they say. The idea is to check out their VOTING/ACTION RECORD. That will tell you where they really stand on issues.
    Or one could easily say he has flip flopped.

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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What I "discounted" was exactly what I said I discounted. You really should learn to read.
    let me ask you again
    explain for us WHY the gay romeny spokesmodel stepped down from his new position
    being unable to do that, you have no other option than to accept what is being presented as the actual basis for his loss of that job
    (this assumes you live in a fact based, real world)
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Or one could easily say he has flip flopped.
    By that measuring stick, you should be pretty damned mad at Obama then right?


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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    let me ask you again
    explain for us WHY the gay romeny spokesmodel stepped down from his new position
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060455223

    being unable to do that, you have no other option than to accept what is being presented as the actual basis for his loss of that job
    This is what we call an Argument from Ignorance.

    It's the formal name of the fallacy, and it's also remarkably apt.
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    explain for us WHY the gay romeny spokesmodel stepped down from his new position
    being unable to do that, you have no other option than to accept what is being presented as the actual basis for his loss of that job
    (this assumes you live in a fact based, real world)
    The Aide stepped down because HE felt he was being attacked for being gay and he felt he would hurt the Romney Campaign by staying.

    However, the reason HE stepped down, isn't always the reality of the situation.

    Either way, it isn't being fired. He did it on his own.

    You can speculate he was fired, but it isn't a fact.

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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    In the case of the vast majority of politicians you can just disregard everything they say. The idea is to check out their VOTING/ACTION RECORD. That will tell you where they really stand on issues.
    Yet, you make a post claiming to actually know What he did? Are proven completely wrong...an all you can come up with is this?

    Dude...admit to the loss and go on.

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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The Aide stepped down because HE felt he was being attacked for being gay and he felt he would hurt the Romney Campaign by staying.

    However, the reason HE stepped down, isn't always the reality of the situation.

    Either way, it isn't being fired. He did it on his own.

    You can speculate he was fired, but it isn't a fact.
    I can even think of several reasons for the actions regarding the conference calls he was to listen in on. He had not transitioned to the campaign team physically and been briefed in person on positions and reactions to various issues, allowing someone to comment at that point can create a lot of backlash if the wrong thing is said or interpretted a certain way.

    He may have been getting backlash of a personal nature from his friends and associates that were gay and resented his personal decision to work for Romney--they may very well percieve Romney and his campaign as the enemy.

    He is a political operative, he may have been getting pushback from Democrat circles to the tune of "you will never work on another democratic campaign in your life".

    End of the day, its all speculation. He stepped down and he isnt saying much regarding why. It was his call, not Romney's and thats pretty much all we know right now.

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