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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I'm sure you blew a fuse constructing that. Rest now.

    I broke it down, ducky. Follow the link.

    Indeed, it did not. Follow the link.
    Sure, it's not like conservative journalists lobbied for his firing.

    Oh wait, I guess they did.

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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sure, it's not like conservative journalists lobbied for his firing.

    Oh wait, I guess they did.

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    Hey, genius -- I already discussed that. Follow. The. Link. It was right there in my post; you quoted it.
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Hey, genius -- I already discussed that. Follow. The. Link. It was right there in my post; you quoted it.
    You're discussion of it was ridiculously misleading. You tried to twist the article with creative highlighting when the author's point was clearly that Grennell should not be working in the Romney campaign because of his pro-gay marriage position. Very upstanding.

    Is it just one conservative? No.

    Andy reported on Friday that Mitt Romney has hired openly gay communications strategist Richard Grennel to be his campaign spokesman. You'd think Republicans would welcome the news. Grennel's hiring shows that Republicans are generous enough to uncomplainingly rub elbows with sinners, and the promulgation of that message could (who knows?) attract a few gay and gay-friendly votes.

    That logic either never occured to or doesn't suffice for the American Family Association's Bryan Fischer, who yesterday tweeted this message:


    Romney picks out & loud gay as a spokesman. If personnel is policy, his message to the pro-family community: drop dead.

    Read more: Bryan Fischer To Romney: Don't Hire Gays |Gay News|Gay Blog Towleroad
    Were there other "personal issues" that you think resulted in Grennell's departure? If so, what were they?

    Rubin adds that “officials from the Romney campaign and respected Republicans not on the campaign contacted Ric Grenell over the weekend in an attempt to persuade him not to leave the campaign.” Grenell was upset that there was no public statement of support for him “by the campaign and no supportive social conservatives were enlisted to calm the waters.”
    Why would he be looking for support from social conservatives if it wasn't about "the gay"?

    “It’s not that the campaign cared whether Ric Grenell was gay,” one Republican adviser said. “They believed this was a nonissue. But they didn’t want to confront the religious right.” Like many interviewed, this adviser insisted on anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/03/us...licy-team.html
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You're discussion of it was ridiculously misleading. You tried to twist the article with creative highlighting when the author's point was clearly that Grennell should not be working in the Romney campaign because of his pro-gay marriage position. Very upstanding.
    As is your wont, you're wrestling with your little imaginary strawmen rather than with what I actually said.

    The OP stated he had to step down because he was gay.

    The article cited doesn't support that. I showed how.

    Franck's blog post says specifically that it isn't the reason.

    Top Cat said that the article clearly stated that he had to step down because of the "conservative backlash."

    To which I responded, it offered bupkis in support of it, and as I had already explained myself in full on that point, I linked back to the post.

    Now, you can continue blabbering on about whatever else you want, but it's about something I didn't say. Of course, that's what you do.
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    As is your wont, you're wrestling with your little imaginary strawmen rather than with what I actually said.

    The OP stated he had to step down because he was gay.

    The article cited doesn't support that. I showed how.

    Franck's blog post says specifically that it isn't the reason.

    Top Cat said that the article clearly stated that he had to step down because of the "conservative backlash."

    To which I responded, it offered bupkis in support of it, and as I had already explained myself in full on that point, I linked back to the post.

    Now, you can continue blabbering on about whatever else you want, but it's about something I didn't say. Of course, that's what you do.

    tell us why he "stepped down"
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    tell us why he "stepped down"
    I don't care. It was never my point. And your putting "stepped down" in quotes indicates that alas, and unsurprisingly, you never bothered to follow the link to my original post, because indeed, he did step down. He was not fired.
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I don't care.
    no we get to the essence of this argument
    you don't have one
    you only have your ideology. damn the facts of the matter

    It was never my point.
    you never made one, unfortunately

    And your putting "stepped down" in quotes indicates that alas, and unsurprisingly, you never bothered to follow the link to my original post, because indeed, he did step down. He was not fired.
    i took that "stepped down" reference from your own post. the one i quoted

    you are on empty
    but keep trying
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no we get to the essence of this argument
    you don't have one
    you only have your ideology. damn the facts of the matter


    you never made one, unfortunately


    i took that "stepped down" reference from your own post. the one i quoted

    you are on empty
    but keep trying
    So many words, so much nothing said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I don't care. It was never my point. And your putting "stepped down" in quotes indicates that alas, and unsurprisingly, you never bothered to follow the link to my original post, because indeed, he did step down. He was not fired.
    No kidding. I never claimed otherwise. He stepped down because he was being frozen out by the campaign. They wanted to keep him in the closet so as not to offend the Christian conservative homophobes.
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    Re: Gay Romney aide steps down, citing backlash over sexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    So many words, so much nothing said.
    and yet you are unable/unwilling to explain to us why the gay romney spokesmodel stepped down from his new appointment
    after discounting the reasons that have been offered
    one must then conclude that you prefer to ignore the facts
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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