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Obama flies to Afghanistan, signs pact with Karzai

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BAGRAM AIR FIELD, Afghanistan (AP) - In a swift and secretive trip to the war zone, President Barack Obama signed an agreement Tuesday night vowing long-term ties with Afghanistan after America's combat forces come home. "There's a light on the horizon," he told U.S. troops on the one-year anniversary of Osama bin Laden's death.Seated beside Afghan President Hamid Karzai, Obama declared, "Together, we're now committed to replacing war with peace."
The partnership spells out the U.S. relationship with Afghanistan beyond 2014. It is limited in scope and essentially gives both sides political cover: Afghanistan is guaranteed its sovereignty and promised it won't be abandoned, while the U.S. gets to end its combat mission in the long and unpopular war but keep a foothold in the country.
Obama also was to give a speech designed to reach Americans at the dinnertime hour of 7:30 p.m. EDT. That would be 4 a.m. here when Obama speaks.
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He flew to the site of America's longest war not only as commander in chief but also as an incumbent president in the early stages of a tough re-election campaign. Nor were the two roles completely distinct.

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Wow, all I can think of is how much flack supporters of Bush took when he would make any speech that even mentioned 9/11, now you have Obama just ridin' that politicizing horse to death!


j-mac
 
People would give Bush **** for talking about a terrorist attack? I thought the media loved that ****!
 
I have been thread banned for speaking the truth. So I am leaving for a while. I may be back. Or maybe not. Either way I won't be paying for the service here. I just want to say than you to Redress, who banned me. You have probably saved me both time and money.
 
Misterveritis said:
I have been thread banned for speaking the truth. So I am leaving for a while. I may be back. Or maybe not. Either way I won't be paying for the service here. I just want to say than you to Redress, who banned me. You have probably saved me both time and money.
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IF your banned how the hell did you post that?
 
Misterveritis said:
I have been thread banned for speaking the truth. So I am leaving for a while. I may be back. Or maybe not. Either way I won't be paying for the service here. I just want to say than you to Redress, who banned me. You have probably saved me both time and money.
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Hate to see you go but I know the feeling.
 
He said 'thread banned'....Hope this isn't what I have seen happen before in other sites starting here.

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
He said 'thread banned'....Hope this isn't what I have seen happen before in other sites starting here.

j-mac
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Still if thats true then how did he post here?

It doesnt matter tho
back on topic!
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Still if thats true then how did he post here?

It doesnt matter tho
back on topic!
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Because when you are 'thread banned' you can't go into that thread anymore, but you can post in others....Although a couple of things I find annoying is that you can't even read the thread anymore, and you have to constantly agree to forum rules every time you come on the site....It really is annoying.

But I agree, back to topic.


j-mac
 
9/11 occurred on Bush Jr. watch, not Obamas, not Clintons, not Elder Bush. It was an abject failure for which he was not personally responsible but was technically responsible. Also, 9/11 is becoming history, much less painful than in the years that followed.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
The problem I have with this treaty is that it states that "[the] US will help defend the country militarily for at least a decade after Afghans take control of their security" and that "Washington may use 'diplomatic means, political means, economic means and even military means,'" to these ends in 'defending' Afghanistan. (US may use 'military means' to defend Afghanistan until 2024 — RT) (US-Afghan Security Pact Sends Warning To Al-Qaida : NPR)
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Hmmm....So, the Afghan's are pulling a fast one? Getting to save face by claiming that they kicked out the Americans while preserving the ability to pull them back in when the Taliban waltzes back in now that they know the time line?


j-mac
 
Precisely. We are easily manipulated. Eager, even.

j-mac said:
Hmmm....So, the Afghan's are pulling a fast one? Getting to save face by claiming that they kicked out the Americans while preserving the ability to pull them back in when the Taliban waltzes back in now that they know the time line?


j-mac
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specklebang said:
Precisely. We are easily manipulated. Eager, even.
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And how convenient for Obama that he gets to tout this for his election campaign, when deep down he knows that we will just be right back there.


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Wow, all I can think of is how much flack supporters of Bush took when he would make any speech that even mentioned 9/11, now you have Obama just ridin' that politicizing horse to death!


j-mac
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SOme can never see differences. Odd that.
 
j-mac said:
Well? Let's hear the convoluted double speak, and obfuscation that has become famous....

j-mac
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Why? We have your excuse making. ;)
 
The truth is Bush used 9/11 as a tag line to all his speeches in which he repeated the date to the exclusion of actually saying anything of substance. He took credit he wasn't due, and his VP even went so far as to say vote for us or die. Bush was the person who made the mess to begin with. He made a lot of political hay out of it, and went a long ways over the line.

And you pull up this and pretend they are equal?

You might want to catch Stewart tonight.
 
j-mac said:
Wow, all I can think of is how much flack supporters of Bush took when he would make any speech that even mentioned 9/11, now you have Obama just ridin' that politicizing horse to death!
j-mac
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Did you forget that Afghanistan actually played a pivotal role in 911 -- unlike Iraq, which had ****all to do with it?
 
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