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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    The connection is tenuous at best but that doesn't make either aspect a bad idea, so what's the problem? I've never really skipped a walk because of feral dogs, hell, I didn't know there was a feral dog problem. However, I don't understand the relationship to corruption.
    i walk daily for exercise and have been attacked twice in the past year. my dad was attacked by a boxer wile helping me with my fence a week ago. hard to know if the dogs were feral, but i'm for spaying strays. it's a hard life for them, and it can turn into a real problem.

    as for owners who let their mean, territorial dogs run, the fines should be serious and significant.

    i carry pepper spray and a knife when i walk now. as i am a non-violent person with a tender heart, i truly hope that i never have to use either one.

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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i walk daily for exercise and have been attacked twice in the past year. my dad was attacked by a boxer wile helping me with my fence a week ago. hard to know if the dogs were feral, but i'm for spaying strays. it's a hard life for them, and it can turn into a real problem.
    Are you saying that the boxer wouldn't have attacked if he had been fixed? That's absurd. The only way to stop feral dog attacks, which are hardly common anyhow, is to remove the feral dogs entirely. Spaying them won't make a difference. Go out and shoot them. But no... that would be unpopular with the public so they don't even try.
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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Are you saying that the boxer wouldn't have attacked if he had been fixed? That's absurd. The only way to stop feral dog attacks, which are hardly common anyhow, is to remove the feral dogs entirely. Spaying them won't make a difference. Go out and shoot them. But no... that would be unpopular with the public so they don't even try.
    i'm arguing that the boxer might not have existed in the first place if feral dogs were fixed.

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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm arguing that the boxer might not have existed in the first place if feral dogs were fixed.
    The majority of feral dogs are not bred in the "wild" but abandoned or escaped. It almost certainly wouldn't have made any difference.
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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Sometimes is positively amazing what kind of logical contortions liberals will engage in to justify their corruptness.
    And the same can be said for conservatives. No one gets off this hook because all politicians and all groups do the same thing. "We all know" it's for the health of the women that they need an internal, invasive scan before getting an abortion, right? Who doesn't see through that kind of crap? Or are conservatives so blind they honestly can't see it when it favors their position?


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    And isn't it conservatives who are always screaming "put it in the hands of the State"? Well, this is what sometimes happens when locals decide how money is to be spent.
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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    And the same can be said for conservatives. No one gets off this hook because all politicians and all groups do the same thing. "We all know" it's for the health of the women that they need an internal, invasive scan before getting an abortion, right? Who doesn't see through that kind of crap? Or are conservatives so blind they honestly can't see it when it favors their position?


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    And isn't it conservatives who are always screaming "put it in the hands of the State"? Well, this is what sometimes happens when locals decide how money is to be spent.
    More than likely nobody would've even though of it at the state level if the feds didn't show up with a goody bag full of excess cash.
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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    And the same can be said for conservatives. No one gets off this hook because all politicians and all groups do the same thing. "We all know" it's for the health of the women that they need an internal, invasive scan before getting an abortion, right? Who doesn't see through that kind of crap? Or are conservatives so blind they honestly can't see it when it favors their position?


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    And isn't it conservatives who are always screaming "put it in the hands of the State"? Well, this is what sometimes happens when locals decide how money is to be spent.
    Yeppers...leave it up to the local liberals to find a way to steal the nation's taxpayer's dollars to pay for something that should be payed for by the local citizens.
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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Below is a recent article from the washington examiner where a federal health program targeting obesity paid for city wide spays for stray animals because they discourage people from working out. The article didn't mention how much was actually spent on the spaying itself, just that it was part of a 7.5 million dollar slushfund.

    I think when we're spending so frivolously on such ridiculous things, asking america for more money is not the answer.

    Obama anti-obesity
    And if the Feds had been directly involved in this stupid plot I would agree - but they weren't. The money was handed off to local officials to use as they saw fit and some local politician with a personal agenda made up some lame logic to use it this way. It could just as easily been a conservative agenda being met instead of what some people call a liberal agenda. (Cephus is right, shooting stray dogs would be better and cheaper.) This kind of thing is going to happen on occasion regardless of how diligent we are and, before you say it, the same kind of thing happens in business as well.

    People with power are given discretion on how to use money and sometimes they use it to promote a personal agenda. Should we stop the delegation of authority? Honestly, I don't see how government or industry can function without it. The best we can do is create an environment where such misuse is minimized.


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    More than likely nobody would've even though of it at the state level if the feds didn't show up with a goody bag full of excess cash.
    Hopefully this post addressed that concern.
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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Yeppers...leave it up to the local liberals to find a way to steal the nation's taxpayer's dollars to pay for something that should be payed for by the local citizens.
    Like conservatives would NEVER do such a thing.

    Both sides play the system.
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    Re: Government fund pays to spay stray animals in order to fight human obesity.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Like conservatives would NEVER do such a thing.

    Both sides play the system.
    shrug...

    If you have an example, then by all means...trot it out. But do it in another thread, please.

    In the meantime, it would be nice if you had something cogent to say about THIS topic...other than "but the conservative do it too".
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