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May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

Grant said:
That's quite true. Radical Islam knows it, the Nazis know it, Fascists know it and the Communists certainly know it as well.
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We wrote the book on it.

Grant said:
But that ten per cent can be applied to those in America who love their country also and will quickly turn on the OWS types, and those who using them, in order to defend the freedoms they've earned.
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'tis true. I don't think OWS has pertinent cause for revolt. While I can understand some of the base anger, they've succumbed to simplistic rioting and looting. If one is to engage in violence against the government, at the very least they should take it out against the government.

Grant said:
Two mistakes are being made here by the OWS people and their handlers. The first is by the simple minded OWSers who think they can demonstrate, damage and disrupt indefinitely without a counter protest, much more violent and dramatic than they ever imagined, taking place.

The mistake being made by their handlers is that they can create mayhem and revolution in America without the "silent majority" of Americans ever striking back. Like Yamamoto after Pearl Harbor, the far left may eventually realize that "...all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant."
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There are many problems with OWS. A lot I believe stems from their lack of organization and leadership. While the base protest would be OK under these conditions, without leadership you're essentially letting the inmates run the asylum. Under these conditions, fringe groups within the movement can act under the same name as the larger movement with no internal policing of action and membership. I think on many fronts we see that happening more and more as OWS stretches on.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Please show me anywhere in my statements where I advocated this. I only pointed out that there is a speration between those causing violence and those that are non-violent.
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OK. They are standing 10-20 feet apart. Separation ? .... yes. Distance of any consequence ? .... no.

Please show us where Obama has said to take to the streets and block bridges and traffic and break windows. I'm sure you can find a quote there. Otherwise, you're just being a partisan hack and trying to connect this to Obama.
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So Obama had no clue that his advocating class envy, and then praising the OWS movement, was not going to lead to the disrespect for the law, and the livelihoods of others, that we saw with the otherwise non-violent OWS protesters ? He is that stupid ?

No. He is not. In fact, the educated opinions that Obama's class-envy reelection platform were going to lead to violence such as this were voiced from the very beginning. This most certainly is not rocket science.

What does the tea party have to do with anything in this thread? Nice deflection and dodge there.
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Been mentioned a few times. In that this violence follows liberal political protests, not conservative protests. It is not a random coincidence.
 
Reverend said:
instigating violence and destruction by posting pictures of blac block and taking on thier vernacular. One cannot deny they are despite outward suggestions, directing people towards violence, you can see it in this thread. :shrug:
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I don't see anything "violent" or "destructive" about the article you linked to.

Violence begets violence and when you fling your poo and pee at cops, I won't care much if they don't treat you well.
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This is a common made up accusation against the black bloc. I have yet to see any actual evidence that anyone has ever flung "poo" or "pee" (how do you even "fling" pee?).
 
Eighty Deuce said:
OK. They are standing 10-20 feet apart. Separation ? .... yes. Distance of any consequence ? .... no.
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Ahh so by your logic, if the tea party holds a rally and the KKK show up and cause problems, it is the Tea Party that is at fault. Got it.

Eighty Deuce said:
So Obama had no clue that his advocating class envy, and then praising the OWS movement, was not going to lead to the disrespect for the law, and the livelihoods of others, that we saw with the otherwise non-violent OWS protesters ? He is that stupid ?

No. He is not. In fact, the educated opinions that Obama's class-envy reelection platform were going to lead to violence such as this were voiced from the very beginning. This most certainly is not rocket science.
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Yet again, Obama was praising the idea of standing up for what you believe in. Nowhere did he say go to the streets and block traffic while causing violence.

You can blame it on him all you want, it is your own partisan hackery that is on display here for all to see.

Eighty Deuce said:
Been mentioned a few times. In that this violence follows liberal political protests, not conservative protests. It is not a random coincidence.
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Bull****, ever seen a flag burning? It's always conservatives that throw the first punch or start a fight. It's not a random coincindence. I guess Cons are violent and should be outlawed.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
If you are ignorant of blac block tactics, I guess you would would miss the inferences the main #ows website is suggesting. it was said there was no relation between #ows and black bloc tactics.

I have clearly proved this contention wrong.


Violence begets violence and when you fling your poo and pee at cops, I won't care much if they don't treat you well. :shrug:
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I was being facetious. Black Bloc are the likely perps here. However you are wrong, they are not OWS. They are thug opportunists. And perhaps you missed it, I am all for giving these perps a serious beat down. These are the same little punk bitch cowards that pulled this stunt at the WTO.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
I don't see anything "violent" or "destructive" about the article you linked to.
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Already addressed in a previous post, when you use vernacular of dirtbags like blac block and pictures of people in said black garb, the message is clear.



This is a common made up accusation against the black bloc. I have yet to see any actual evidence that anyone has ever flung "poo" or "pee" (how do you even "fling" pee?).
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You fling pee in a jar, I had the article this morning showing a down cop from said jar, can't find it again. so here are more reports from various times.


Protestors throw urine bombs at Denver police | KDVR.com is the website for KDVR Television, FOX 31 News in Denver, Colorado



ahh here it is right from the OP..

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Officers arrest a man that threw a glass jar and hit an officer in his face shield during a May Day rally on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 in downtown Seattle. The rally turned violent when black-clad protesters smashed windows and threw objects at police.
Photo: JOSHUA TRUJILLO / SEATTLEPI.COM



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At least one officer was hit by a bottle of urine, a baggie of feces was found left among the protests and other items confiscated by police included a pry bar, hammer, rocks and more than a dozen lighters taped together.

Read more: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle - seattlepi.com



Will you still be denying the violence and the pee and poo flinging?
 
Top Cat said:
I was being facetious. Black Bloc are the likely perps here. However you are wrong, they are not OWS. They are thug opportunists. And perhaps you missed it, I am all for giving these perps a serious beat down. These are the same little punk bitch cowards that pulled this stunt at the WTO.
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Funny


Solidarity Sunday


OWS website shows a picture of black block types and uses incindiary language to "retaliate".....
 
Top Cat said:
I don't see that there. Show the pic.
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again?


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Note the dress in black, note the face coverings, note the anarchy symbols, note the .... wait for it..... the BLACK FLAG towards the right, above the "o" in "commune"... these are clearly black block idiots.... #ows main site, wants you to look like that when you retaliate.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
It was just announced that #OccupySeattle has taken over the courthouse. #OWS

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Hells yea!
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Explain in detail exactly how, in your estimation, this is something worth celebrating.
 
Society's fault for not giving them enough free stuff. We get it already!
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
again?


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Note the dress in black, note the face coverings, note the anarchy symbols, note the .... wait for it..... the BLACK FLAG towards the right, above the "o" in "commune"... these are clearly black block idiots.... #ows main site, wants you to look like that when you retaliate.
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I see one guy with a mask. I don't see where it call for masks. I do see the call for dress in black. And i see no call for violence. They do call for "resistance"
 
Top Cat said:
I see one guy with a mask. I don't see where it call for masks. I do see the call for dress in black. And i see no call for violence. They do call for "resistance"
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this is a black block picture, these are the douchebags that throw pee and poo at cops, see that black flag?


Why would they #ows website, use a picture of violent assholes, if thier aim was nonviolence, It makes little sense and I find your excuse making, suspect.
 
lizzie said:
The Boston Tea party, and events leading up to it, were a protest against taxation on the colonies, absent representation, not about a bunch of punk kids wanting free stuff, because they never grew up enough to make it on their own, and have decided that somehow, society owes them just for being the wonderful individuals they are.
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The Boston Tea Party was in revolt to the monopoly and tax cuts given to that monopoly.
So it is only justified to destroy the sacred concept of private property only if it follows your cause?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
this is a black block picture, these are the douchebags that throw pee and poo at cops, see that black flag?


Why would they #ows website, use a picture of violent assholes, if thier aim was nonviolence, It makes little sense and I find your excuse making, suspect.
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I would agree that it is suspect. And like I said, I hope the little punk bitches get a beat down. I just don't believe that the typical OWS protester supports violence.
 
Meathead said:
Society's fault for not giving them enough free stuff. We get it already!
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I don't see why the cops don't just toss CS gas, and beat the ever loving **** out of them. I'm all for peaceable protest, regardless of what they're protesting, but this is a riot. Release the ****ing hounds.
 
Top Cat said:
I would agree that it is suspect. And like I said, I hope the little punk bitches get a beat down. I just don't believe that the typical OWS protester supports violence.
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I think as the movement dies, those left will be the more extremist ones, that's why you see this last may day more violent in nature than past protests, which were significantly larger.
 
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