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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    BTW if anyone's actually interested in learning about Black Bloc tactics I'd highly recommend this article.

    Hmmm....We could have boiled it down and just said a communist tactic.

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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque
    And yet still not the same as destroying the private property of multiple individuals in no way involved in the issues they're so ardently fighting against. EIC had a direct connection to the issues with Britain, Joe Blow's car or the Subway store front owned by a small-business franchisee have nothing to do with the OWS cause, assuming they even know what their cause really is.
    Methinks you don't understand the philosophy behind the black bloc.

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    Hmmm....We could have boiled it down and just said a communist tactic.
    Erm, it's not a communist tactic. It actually sprung out of the anarchist movement and is nowadays closer to insurrectionism than anything else. Most communists hate black bloc anarchists and think that such actions amount to further state crackdowns on various movements. Trotsky's famous article (Edit: Whoops, real famous article is here) is commonly quoted in these instances.
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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    And yet still not the same as destroying the private property of multiple individuals in no way involved in the issues they're so ardently fighting against. [...]
    I'm not really sure what you're talking about. For the most part, they seem to be damaging businesses. Large businesses (Nike, mega-banks, etc). So yeah, if they're roaming subdivisions and kicking over lawn furniture and vandalizing mail boxes, then sure, they hate Americans

    And I'd thought we'd all agreed that they are not part of OWS... or is that ruse still on the table?
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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl
    And I'd thought we'd all agreed that they are not part of OWS... or is that ruse still on the table?
    I'd argue that they're part of OWS, but only because OWS isn't really an organization or even a movement but rather an amalgamation of various different movements, organizations and parties coming together under a single banner/namesake. Which means that pretty much can do anything in the name of OWS.

    FWIW, though, I don't think black bloc groups tend to identify with OWS, though I could be wrong. My guess is that they're probably rather hostile to the broader OWS movement.
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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I'd argue that they're part of OWS, but only because OWS isn't really an organization or even a movement but rather an amalgamation of various different movements, organizations and parties coming together under a single banner/namesake. Which means that pretty much can do anything in the name of OWS.

    FWIW, though, I don't think black bloc groups tend to identify with OWS, though I could be wrong. My guess is that they're probably rather hostile to the broader OWS movement.
    Sounds like that ruse is still on the table.
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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Erm, it's not a communist tactic. It actually sprung out of the anarchist movement and is nowadays closer to insurrectionism than anything else.
    this is nothing new, if it is not a communist tactic, then why use a quasi socialist site to explain it? I give you from their 'about' section...

    Viewpoint Magazine is an online review of contemporary politics. Its starting premise is that the history of capitalism is the history of the struggle between capital and the working class. Our task is to articulate the proletarian viewpoint at the level of theory.
    Note the Marxist terminology used.

    This OWS crap is spurred on by the class warfare of Francis Fox Piven, Unions, Communist (CPUSA), and the gambit of offshoot Van Jones, Geo Soros, Progress America BS. They embrace the Anarchists, in fact call for it.

    It is only a couple of props that try to stop it so that a plausible excuse can be given for the tacid approval in this OWS/Progressive/Communist BS parade of the clown brigade.

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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    this is nothing new, if it is not a communist tactic, then why use a quasi socialist site to explain it? I give you from their 'about' section...
    LOL, I just posted an article that discusses the entire history of the black bloc and explains its origins and development as an anarchist tactic. The article ends by criticizing the tactic ffs. And you think that somehow this shows that it's a "communist tactic" because a Marxist publication discussed it?

    That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.


    This OWS crap is spurred on by the class warfare of Francis Fox Piven, Unions, Communist (CPUSA), and the gambit of offshoot Van Jones, Geo Soros, Progress America BS. They embrace the Anarchists, in fact call for it.
    Love the conspiracist trolling, keep it up.
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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by mtlhdtodd View Post
    May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle - seattlepi.com

    Ah the peaceful protest of OWS and May day. You guys should be so proud!!!
    The overhwhelming majority of protesters are peaceful. The knuckledraggers behind the violence are the same assholes that pulled this stunt at the WTO in Seattle. They are a group of radicals from Eugene. Bet the farm on it.

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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    The overhwhelming majority of protesters are peaceful. The knuckledraggers behind the violence are the same assholes that pulled this stunt at the WTO in Seattle. They are a group of radicals from Eugene. Bet the farm on it.
    Really? are they traveling across the country? With all of the reports of rape, violence, vandalism, etc....Yeah, OWS are really just sweet, sweet hippies....


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    Re: May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Really? are they traveling across the country? With all of the reports of rape,
    When was the last report of a rape?

    violence, vandalism, etc....Yeah, OWS are really just sweet, sweet hippies....


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