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May Day protests turn violent in downtown Seattle

digsbe said:
Would you allow the government to violently oppose them for putting others in harm and endangering peace? Free speech is one thing, but violence and vandalism shouldn't be acceptable.
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Your right they have to stop this nonesense...this is beyond any protesting...
 
Eighty Deuce said:
And the tree of stupidity must be fertilized with the busted heads of these OWS anarchist scumbags. These punks can't hold the dicks of true patriots.
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I suggest to you the anarchists are not OWS. They are punk bitches using the OWS protest that's all.
 
Ikari said:
I support the right of the People to violently oppose their government...
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You support violent revolution against the US government... It figures.

...should it stop working for them for too long
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You mean if the government doesn't steal from those who have worked hard to become successful, and give it to those who haven't.


...and too grievously infringe upon their rights and liberties. Yes.
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What a contradiction... You want the government to step in and take control of health care, control wall street, take control of the oil industry, take control of banks, control the internet, control the content of commercial radio stations, control auto industry standards, regulate everything they can get their hands on, and to raise the standard of living for some Americans, by confiscating the earnings of others... And you want them to also respect your freedoms and not infringe on your liberties?

In case you're not a student of history and didn't realize it, more government = less freedom and liberty.
 
I'm not a scholar or scientist like most of you guys are, I'm just a normal asshole that thinks he knows everything and post it on the Internet because anyone with a right mind would say just that- I'm an opinionated asshole so....anyways isn't it our right to violently uprise against the goverent if we think they are ****ing up?
Do we really need laws to tell us how to act against something that makes the laws?
 
Trouble with free speech is it's not just free speech but a free for all.
 
Top Cat said:
The overhwhelming majority of protesters are peaceful. The knuckledraggers behind the violence are the same assholes that pulled this stunt at the WTO in Seattle. They are a group of radicals from Eugene. Bet the farm on it.
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These "knuckledraggers" would never have tried the same thing with the Tea Party protesters because they know that any attempt at violence, or damage to public property, would have put them in serious harm's way. The Tea partiers love their country and what it stands for.

But they know that they can get away with this sort of thing with the OWSers because the OWSers tend to behave like a disoriented mob and are, of course, not terribly bright. Their knuckles would show a lot of wear as well.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I support the right of the rest of us to slap the living crap out of them, too.

Except that they're not liberal jackasses nor OWS. They are the ultimate extreme of small government conservatives: anarchists.
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Sorry, but no cigar for you. As noted by others, these folks do not find cover and comfort within such as Tea Party rallies.

Look at the posts by such as Ikari and a couple of others. Its all right there. ;)

These most violent ones may be the fringe, but its the fringe of liberalism. No different from the tree-huggers who vandalize the logging industry. And just a small jump from such as the OWS scum who blocked the port in Oakland, or proclaimed that they were going to block bridges yesterday. All cut from the same cloth.
 
I think that people are confusing the Black bloc with OWS protestors. They are two different groups.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I think that people are confusing the Black bloc with OWS protestors. They are two different groups.
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No they are not. Black bloc has been in and a part of ows since it started.


That said. These savages are only "anarchists" because they have daddy's credit cards...


On another note I read they are throwing bags of feces and urine.. I thought that's what monkeys do.
 
Kal'Stang said:
The black bloc is not a part of the OWS, they just use OWS rallies to their advantage. Look em up.
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oh really?

Let's review "black bloc"

A black bloc is a tactic for protests and marches, whereby individuals wear black clothing, scarves, ski masks, motorcycle helmets with padding, or other face-concealing items.[...] The clothing is used to avoid being identified, and to, theoretically, appear as one large mass, promoting solidarity. -wiki


Now let's look at #ows of dubious causes main website:

Solidarity Sunday

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Straight from the horses mouth.


It's amazing I know so much more about #ows of dubious causes that it's supporters. :ssst:
 
Ikari said:
The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots.
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As one who has a family member that is a police officer that has saved many lives, I find your response both counter-productive and naive.

Want to wage the good fight against the government? Fine, I can understand that and in some ways understand that. Want to wage a fight with cops who protect us and sacrifice so much to do so, I'll fight along them in wiping people that use violence against cops out.
 
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I simply cannot understand how people can support a group who uses violence against small business owners in destroying and looting items.

Do I feel we are heading to a corporist state? Yep. Do I think the way to fight it is to attack small business owners and destroy their businesses and loot their items? Hell no.
 
Ikari said:
The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots.
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You do know, that these kids don't share the idea of "liberty" that you think. most are dependent class liberal slobs or mommy boys with a platnium cards in thier wallet.... Thier vision of America is a wealth distribution society. And if one of them tried to "shake the tree of liberty" by throwing a rock through my window, I hope they enjoy my lead 5.56 "acorn" I'll be putting in thier head.
 
How is it that these Occutards haven't been mentioned?

Bridge bomb plot: Suspects were active in Occupy Cleveland, even as movement slowed to a crawl | cleveland.com
Five men involved in Occupy Cleveland stand accused of plotting to blow up a bridge over Cuyahoga Valley National Park in Sagamore Hills. The organization itself has not been implicated, but the arrests prompted organizers to cancel their May Day protest and instead spend the day distancing themselves from what they characterized as a fringe element.

"While the group arrested Monday evening by the FBI [was] associated with Occupy Cleveland, they were in no way representing or acting on behalf of Occupy Cleveland or the event that was planned for later today," the organization said in an email. "Occupy Cleveland has affirmed principles of nonviolence since its inception on Oct. 6, 2011."
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Yeah, woo hoo Occupy! Wait, what? Um, no, those guys aren't with us. Woo hoo Occupy1
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
You tend to forget the Boston Tea Party.....
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The Boston Tea party, and events leading up to it, were a protest against taxation on the colonies, absent representation, not about a bunch of punk kids wanting free stuff, because they never grew up enough to make it on their own, and have decided that somehow, society owes them just for being the wonderful individuals they are.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Boston Tea Party was a tax revolt, These #ows of dubious causes types want to increase taxes. :prof
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So you're saying, they would have SUPPORTED King George and putting the tea back in the ships? :mrgreen:
 
Ockham said:
So you're saying, they would have SUPPORTED King George and putting the tea back in the ships? :mrgreen:
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Of course, but only after they drank it first. They would have returned it to the ships as urine. Par for the course.
 
Dittohead not! said:
How do you think they had that monopoly?

Couldn't have been the British government, could it?
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It could be, it could be laizie faire economics, it could be a lot of things. That doesn't make companies like East India Company public, it doesn't make it government own. It was private property and private business that was destroyed. Do we teach history anymore?
 
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