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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

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    We certainly have our share of soup kitchens, shelters ect. Those are good things.
    Not if those things are in your neighborhood.


    Isolating the homeless should not even be on the table. That is not even something resembling a solution. We need to be helping them get off the street, not pushing them into corners
    If you move the soup kitchen, shelters and other facilities that aid the homeless to a sparsely populated area on the outside of town they will still get the help they need.The only difference is they would be away from the downtown area
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    In my opinion the biggest factor (as far as those that can be controlled) is the economy. Our economic policies are creating the homeless in this country. That goes to my arguments yesterday about jobs here in the United States. Until Americans stop supporting foreign economies with their spending habit and start supporting American businesses we are going to continue to see the number of homeless rise in this country.
    For every job our corps create in china....they put an american out of work...who is paying no taxs here and is either on govt assistance or homeless...its a vicious cycle..

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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading - The Denver Post

    This is something that has caused a ton of discussion here in Colorado so I wanted to see what some of you folks think about the issue.







    I have been to downtown Denver countless times. There are a number of homeless people around. They do harass people. They beg for money. They impede business. Some are crazy and it shows. I don't recall ever being threatened by them but I do try to avoid them and certain businesses and areas where they are more abundant. If I were one of those business owners who customers were avoiding I would be pretty upset by losing customers and business. Also from what a lot of people around here say they do get violent and demanding when you do not give them money and many people I know refuse to go to downtown Denver at night. (it is nowhere near as bad as some other big cities)

    On the other hand, if you dont have a home where do you go? Can you really criminalize homelessness? Many people on the streets have no other option.
    As a fellow Coloradan, I gotta say, I don't find the same problems you found in D-town. Granted, I don't live there but I've been there plenty; downtown, Capitol Hill, Five Points, Colfax, etc. There are quite a few homeless people, as there are in any large city, but I don't get the sense they are harassing people or impeding business. In fact, there are a lot of programs designed to help the homeless that are funded by businesses.

    I do know that the issue of camping has come up in several CO cities, including the smaller town I live in. I can understand why they don't want camps of homeless people in city parks. While homeless people are not necessarily more violent than others, drinking and drug use increases in homeless populations as does other crime levels. Plus, it makes the parks unattractive to families and visitors.

    I know there is a pretty good size community effort to assist Denver's homeless population. I'm all for keeping our homeless population off the streets and out of the parks with public and private assistance, but I don't want these laws used to criminalize homelessness.

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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    For every job our corps create in china....they put an american out of work...who is paying no taxs here and is either on govt assistance or homeless...its a vicious cycle..
    Yeah, we really need to bring back those valuable toy and textile making labor jobs.

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