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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well maybe not the Federal government - but I see nothing wrong with a state taking it on - it's an issue within their state. I don't see why they shouldn't be 'allowed 't od oso.
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    I've never said the State should not be allowed to deal with it...I said they shouldn't because they have more important things to spend their money on.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Shrug...

    I've never said the State should not be allowed to deal with it...I said they shouldn't because they have more important things to spend their money on.
    And I asked what is more important?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Sewage is not confined to Denver either...all communities have it. Do you think the State or the Fed should pay for Denver's sewage treatment?
    How is that applicable? Sewage is not a problem plaguing every city in this country. Furthermore I believe there are federal guidelines surrounding sewage.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

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    How is that applicable? Sewage is not a problem plaguing every city in this country. Furthermore I believe there are federal guidelines surrounding sewage.
    ???

    Are you saying there are cities that don't have sewage?

    Also, Federal guidelines don't equal Federal money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    And I asked what is more important?
    Oh, things like...education...the State Patrol...State highways...things like that.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Shrug...

    I've never said the State should not be allowed to deal with it...I said they shouldn't because they have more important things to spend their money on.
    LOL - trust me: they can multitask.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LOL - trust me: they can multitask.
    Are you sure? I'm not sure they can single-task.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Are you sure? I'm not sure they can single-task.
    I'm imagining the outcry that happens on a vast scale whenever cities have engaged the idea of ending the funding for homeless support and assistance.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading - The Denver Post

    This is something that has caused a ton of discussion here in Colorado so I wanted to see what some of you folks think about the issue.







    I have been to downtown Denver countless times. There are a number of homeless people around. They do harass people. They beg for money. They impede business. Some are crazy and it shows. I don't recall ever being threatened by them but I do try to avoid them and certain businesses and areas where they are more abundant. If I were one of those business owners who customers were avoiding I would be pretty upset by losing customers and business. Also from what a lot of people around here say they do get violent and demanding when you do not give them money and many people I know refuse to go to downtown Denver at night. (it is nowhere near as bad as some other big cities)

    On the other hand, if you dont have a home where do you go? Can you really criminalize homelessness? Many people on the streets have no other option.
    If your downtown is anything like my downtown it is not the the homeless being allowed to camp out that attracts the homeless to the downtown area. It is the soup kitchens and other facilities that aid the homeless that attracts the homeless as well as everyone who gives a homeless person a dollar. I think the solution would be to zone the sparsely populated area of town for homeless shelters and soup kitchens and other facilities that aid the homeless and provide one way bus routes to that area.They can pack in the Labor Readys,employment agencies in that area too.


    That said if your downtown is also like my downtown then another reason people detest going to downtown is having to pay for parking and when they do find parking they have to walk for several blocks. There are three things I go to my downtown for if I do go to downtown area of my city. It is Home depot, Mexicali Border Cafe, and Spaghetti Warehouse.That is only because those places have their own parking.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    If your downtown is anything like my downtown it is not the the homeless being allowed to camp out that attracts the homeless to the downtown area. It is the soup kitchens and other facilities that aid the homeless that attracts the homeless as well as everyone who gives a homeless person a dollar
    We certainly have our share of soup kitchens, shelters ect. Those are good things. Isolating the homeless should not even be on the table. That is not even something resembling a solution. We need to be helping them get off the street, not pushing them into corners
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