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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I'd like to see that, but where does the money come from?
    Same place all government money comes from, taxes.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    1. Spoken like a true liberal...the government is the solution, eh?
    LOL So I am a liberal now?

    2. Nope, they won't find that here. Like I said, they won't come.
    Where are you in Colorado that homeless people are not able to come to?

    3. If you really think I said that, then homelessness is not your problem...comprehension is your problem.
    This is what your argument has come down to? Claiming comprehension issues? How original.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    ???

    Does the State of Colorado provide millions for farm subsidies?

    That's news to me.
    Don't know how much the State itself pays, but the USDA paid Colorado over 300,000,000 bucks in 2010.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    I wonder if part of this isn't a response to the "Occupy" movement, and a means to ensure that the Police can simply go in and dismantle any camp that they may try to rebuild this spring?

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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Same place all government money comes from, taxes.
    Generally speaking people would strongly oppose an increase in taxes. Especially the conservatives (which there are plenty of in colorado) who think everyone is homeless because they are lazy and shouldn't be helped.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    What will be ethe effects of it passing, anyway?

    If they criminalize it - and start doing what? I see that their options are to 1) Relocate homeless to a shelter, maybe try to help them square their lives away 2) Simply scatter the number of homeless and force them to try to hide from law enforcement 3) Drive them out of the city 4) Toss them in jail.

    Well - #1 requires adequate resources for housing and assistance that people complain about.
    #2 and #3 are a blind-eye approach and might scatter the numbers but doesn't reduce the actual number of homeless. . . and will just likely spread their 'problems' to other areas: suburbia, etc.
    #4 will result in overcrowded prisons and right back to where we all started.

    Seems to me they need to decide what they want to do: just get rid of homeless - or make more efforts to end homelessness.
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Generally speaking people would strongly oppose an increase in taxes. Especially the conservatives (which there are plenty of in colorado) who think everyone is homeless because they are lazy and shouldn't be helped.
    Yeah, well what do you want? To clean up your streets or to deal with the homeless making camp all over the place? Ain't no such thing as a free lunch. If you want to deal with the homeless problem, it will cost you. And this is a benefit to the local society/city on whole. You're getting something out of it, and you don't get something for free.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    1. LOL So I am a liberal now?



    2. Where are you in Colorado that homeless people are not able to come to?



    3. This is what your argument has come down to? Claiming comprehension issues? How original.
    1. Don't know if you are a liberal, but you speak like one.

    2. I didn't say they are not able to come...I said they won't come.

    3. No, it's what YOUR argument has come down to...as you've shown with just about every one of your comments. You really have a hard time understanding plain English, don't you?
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Don't know how much the State itself pays, but the USDA paid Colorado over 300,000,000 bucks in 2010.
    Hmmm...

    Did the USDA pay that to the State? Or to the farmers?
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    Re: Denver's proposed camping ban passes council on first reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I wonder if part of this isn't a response to the "Occupy" movement, and a means to ensure that the Police can simply go in and dismantle any camp that they may try to rebuild this spring?
    I dont think it is in response to Occupy. Occupy Denver was pretty civil and they applied for permits and didnt leave too much of a mess behind. Was done somewhat well here.
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