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    Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts darling trying to unseat Sen. Scott Brown, is not the Native American she claimed to be.

    Desperately scrambling to validate Democrat Elizabeth Warren’s Native American heritage amid questions about whether she used her minority status to further her career, the Harvard Law professor’s campaign last night finally came up with what they claim is a Cherokee connection — her great-great-great-grandmother.

    “She would be 1⁄32nd of Elizabeth Warren’s total ancestry,” noted genealogist Christopher Child said, referring to the candidate’s great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, who is listed on an Oklahoma marriage certificate as Cherokee. Smith is an ancestor on Warren’s mother’s side, Child said.

    The missing link comes after Warren’s embattled campaign faced sharp questions about her Native American background in the wake of Herald stories that showed both Harvard Law School and Warren herself had touted her tribal lineage and claimed she was a member of a minority for years.

    more: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago - BostonHerald.com
    Just one more phoney baloney chump politician. You can stick a fork in her now.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    If she used this to promote herself then she deserves the criticism. OTOH, "The professor who recruited Warren to Harvard said that any suggestion that she got her job in part because of a claim of minority status is wrong. "That's totally stupid, ignorant, uninformed and simply wrong," Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried said Monday. "I presented her case to the faculty. I did not mention her Native American connection because I did not know about it."

    Before you ask ... Charles Fried was Solicitor General under Ronald Reagan.

    OTOOH, since we are speaking of hypocrites....

    Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) ran as the 41st vote against President Obama’s health care reform bill in a special election to replace the late Sen. Ted Kennedy and voted three times to repeal the law and take way health care coverage from the 30 million Americans who will benefit from the law by 2014 and the millions who are already taking advantage of its provisions.

    But yesterday, this Tea Party champion and great opponent of Obamacare admitted something astonishing: his 23 year old daughter is one of the 2.5 million young Americans who are benefiting from a regulation that allows young people to stay on their parents’ health care plan until age 26....

    Scott Brown Benefits From Obamacare, Despite Supporting Its Repeal
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Actually one could write "TWO more phoney baloney chump politicians"

    Scott Brown hit over female pay after his campaign calls Elizabeth Warren ‘elitist’

    followed by the release of his tax returns showing just how much money Mr Brown has made since becoming a politician
    Tax returns show Scott Brown, Elizabeth Warren among nation’s top income group
    Tax returns released today show that Republican Scott Brown’s family income more than doubled to nearly $840,000 after he was elected in 2010, while his likely Democratic challenger, Elizabeth Warren, has had nearly $1 million in joint earnings two of the past four years.

    During the most recent filing year, she was in the top 1 percent of earners while he was in the top 2 percent. Brown joined Warren in the uppermost echelon in 2010.
    a fairly balanced take on the matter may be read on the GoLocalWorcester website
    Brown vs Warren and The Great Tax Reveal

    Brown vs. Warren is a tight race as shown by polling averages at RealClearPolitics, which show Brown ahead by one point.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    If she used this to promote herself then she deserves the criticism. OTOH, "The professor who recruited Warren to Harvard said that any suggestion that she got her job in part because of a claim of minority status is wrong. "That's totally stupid, ignorant, uninformed and simply wrong," Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried said Monday. "I presented her case to the faculty. I did not mention her Native American connection because I did not know about it."

    Before you ask ... Charles Fried was Solicitor General under Ronald Reagan.

    OTOOH, since we are speaking of hypocrites....
    The criticism of Warren is that she has deliberately misrepresented her ethnicity. I believe it goes well beyond this strawman you cite.

    As for this notion that those who oppose Obamacare are not to play by it while it is the law ... is this a joke ?

    It is comical to see the grasping for straws in search of equivocal discredit.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    I wonder if Warren is going to insult Curt Shilling or any other Boston sports idol.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I wonder if Warren is going to insult Curt Shilling or any other Boston sports idol.
    I would fully support her insulting Tom Brady. I do it on a weekly basis during football season.


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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    The criticism of Warren is that she has deliberately misrepresented her ethnicity. I believe it goes well beyond this strawman you cite.

    As for this notion that those who oppose Obamacare are not to play by it while it is the law ... is this a joke ?

    It is comical to see the grasping for straws in search of equivocal discredit.
    Almost everybody I know claims some native American ancestry.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts darling trying to unseat Sen. Scott Brown, is not the Native American she claimed to be.



    Just one more phoney baloney chump politician. You can stick a fork in her now.
    Every tribe can set their own regulations for who is, and who is not a member of the tribe. I don't know what the Cherokee's criteria are, but some tribes do go as low as 1/32nd. I myself am 1/16 Hopi, but their cutoff is 1/8 ( I looked into it), so techincally my father could claim tribal membership (he doesn't, but that's up to him).

    So basically, if she fits the Cherokee nation's criteria, she is well within her rights to claim to be a Native American.


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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I wonder if Warren is going to insult Curt Shilling or any other Boston sports idol.
    Schilling deserves to be insulted. He's an ass.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    The criticism of Warren is that she has deliberately misrepresented her ethnicity. I believe it goes well beyond this strawman you cite.
    She hasn't done so for almost 18 years so it appears the only reason it is being brought up now is because internal polling is showing that Scott Brown is in trouble with Massachusetts voters.

    The old political axiom - When you got nothin', make up something"
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