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Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

Who woulda thought the Cherokees would return with a blue-eyed blond:

They took the whole Cherokee nation
And put us on this reservation
They took away our ways of life
The tomahawk and the bow and knife

They took away our native tongue
And taught their English to our young
And all the beads we made by hand
Are nowadays made in Japan

Cherokee people
Cherokee tribe
So proud to live
So proud to die
 
Meathead said:
Who woulda thought the Cherokees would return with a blue-eyed blond:

They took the whole Cherokee nation
And put us on this reservation
They took away our ways of life
The tomahawk and the bow and knife

They took away our native tongue
And taught their English to our young
And all the beads we made by hand
Are nowadays made in Japan

Cherokee people
Cherokee tribe
So proud to live
So proud to die
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It's all in the cheekbones. lol

Far left darling Elizabeth Warren, who lied about being Native American for years, told reporters yesterday that her grandfather had “high cheekbones… like all indians do.”
Now doesn’t that sound a bit racist, Elizabeth?
 
jerry7 said:
You see, Ms. Warren, some of us have independently done our own research and we know you have no documentation supporting your claim of Cherokee ancestry.* We wonder why you believe you have the right to claim Cherokee ancestry and to call yourself a Native American when you have no evidence to support your claim. While you cling to a family story and the inaccurate report that ONE document was found that supports your claim, we real Cherokees understand that those things mean nothing. You see, we Cherokees have lots and lots and lots of documentation supporting our claims of our ancestry. Our Cherokee ancestors are found on every roll of the Cherokee Nation (30+ rolls!) dating back to before the removal and in all sorts of other documentation, including but not limited to claims against the US government for lost property; the Moravian missionary records; ration lists before and after the forced removal, etc...yet your ancestors are found in NONE of those records
But, your ancestors are found in plenty of historical records, and every time, they are found living as white people among other white people. Never are your ancestors ever found living among the Cherokees. Never, never, never, never.......yet you claim they were Cherokee.




Hmmm........and they say you are an elite lawyer! Really?




Are we supposed to believe an elite lawyer knows nothing about the burden of proof? According to Lawyers.com, the burden of proof is the responsibility of producing sufficient evidence in support of a fact or issue and favorably persuading the trier of fact. Well, Ms. Warren, you should know that you are not doing a very good job of supporting your claim or persuading anyone to believe what you say. This is starting to make us question your ability as a legal mind! And that makes us question whether you really got your job at Harvard on your own merits or whether you climbed on the backs of the Cherokee people in order to further your career.


Read more: Thoughts from Polly's Granddaughter: A Letter to Elizabeth Warren
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please describe the circumstances when one must document their Cherokee heritage
for extra credit, tell us why you believe Elizabeth Warren should be expected to
 
Meathead said:
Who woulda thought the Cherokees would return with a blue-eyed blond:

They took the whole Cherokee nation
And put us on this reservation
They took away our ways of life
The tomahawk and the bow and knife

They took away our native tongue
And taught their English to our young
And all the beads we made by hand
Are nowadays made in Japan

Cherokee people
Cherokee tribe
So proud to live
So proud to die
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Not that it's a good thing the white man put them in the position...but the Cherokee were a civilized tribe...they gave up the fight for their land. They should have fought to their death for it, useless as it would have been.....what belonged to them, belonged to them.
 
jerry7 said:
It's all in the cheekbones. lol

Far left darling Elizabeth Warren, who lied about being Native American for years, told reporters yesterday that her grandfather had “high cheekbones… like all indians do.”
Now doesn’t that sound a bit racist, Elizabeth?
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No, no, no! It's not the cheekbones!

She's "...still a Redwoman* deep inside".

*Please note Political Correctness. See, I'm trying!
 
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Flippinfunky said:
Not that it's a good thing the white man put them in the position...but the Cherokee were a civilized tribe...they gave up the fight for their land. They should have fought to their death for it, useless as it would have been.....what belonged to them, belonged to them.
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If they had fought to their death, we wouldn't have Elizabeth Warren...or not.
 
justabubba said:
please describe the circumstances when one must document their Cherokee heritage
for extra credit, tell us why you believe Elizabeth Warren should be expected to
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When one states she is unaware her employer has publicized the fact that she is a minority and after being caught in a lie, 'fesses up and says well.... yeah I did tell them that. And that profession participates fully in affirmative action and she climbs the ladder from one prestigious locale to the next after making such a claim. And she is running for an elective office that will give her the power to shape such policies in the future I think the voters are entitled to proof that she didn't play the system.
 
jerry7 said:
It's all in the cheekbones. lol

Far left darling Elizabeth Warren, who lied about being Native American for years, told reporters yesterday that her grandfather had “high cheekbones… like all indians do.”
Now doesn’t that sound a bit racist, Elizabeth?
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No. Germans have high cheekbones too...is that racist? It's true Cherokee have high cheekbones. Sioux Indians have distinct facial features as well (beautiful bone structure)and many Indians have no facial/body hair..is that racist?
 
poweRob said:
I mean, why would the polls move? This is a great great desperation move by the GOP. She didn't claim Cherokee status when applying in college. She didn't claim Cherokee status when she applied for law school. She didn't say anything about Cherokee status when running for office.

This is just GOP opposition research digging decades into the past to try and find anything. And I mean ANYTHING they can attack her with. This is weaksauce to the max. Which is why the polls aren't moving on this.
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So could somebody please explain to me why this is then important?
 
jerry7 said:
When one states she is unaware her employer has publicized the fact that she is a minority and after being caught in a lie, 'fesses up and says well.... yeah I did tell them that. And that profession participates fully in affirmative action and she climbs the ladder from one prestigious locale to the next after making such a claim. And she is running for an elective office that will give her the power to shape such policies in the future I think the voters are entitled to proof that she didn't play the system.
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your grade for that atrociously inept repy, which failed to addresses the questions posed, is F
 
haymarket said:
So could somebody please explain to me why this is then important?
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it isn't
but they haven't anything else with which to attack her
she is an amazingly intelligent and articulate woman, who has a habit of kicking republican ass
 
Flippinfunky said:
Why? Non civilized tribes still exist today.The Apache were brutal as hell and Apache are still around. I just meant they shouldn't have been "civilized".
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If they fought to "their death", as you put it, we wouldn't have Dizzy Lizzie, again-or not.
 
justabubba said:
she is an amazingly intelligent and articulate woman, who has a habit of kicking republican ass
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If she was all that intelligent and articulate she wouldn't have gotten herself caught up in a lie. Not to mention stealing the recipes. lol
 
From George Will:

The kerfuffle that has earned Warren such sobriquets as “Spouting Bull” and “Fauxcahontas” began with reports that Harvard Law School, in routine academic preening about diversity (in everything but thought), listed her as a minority faculty member, as did the University of Pennsylvania when she taught there. She said some in her family had “high cheekbones like all of the Indians do.” The New England Historic Genealogical Society said a document confirmed the family lore of Warren’s Cherokee ancestry, but later backtracked. She has said she did not know Harvard was listing her as a minority in the 1990s, but Harvard was echoing her: From 1986 through 1995, starting before she came to Harvard, a directory published by the Association of American Law Schools listed her as a minority and says its listings are based on professors claiming minority status.

...Now she is a comic figure associated with laughable racial preferences. She who wants Wall Street “held accountable” is accountable for two elite law schools advertising her minority status. She who accuses Wall Street of gaming the financial system at least collaborated with, and perhaps benefited from, the often absurd obsession with “diversity.”

How absurd? Warren says that for almost a decade she listed herself in the AALS directory as a Native American because she hoped to “meet others like me.” This well-educated, highly paid, much-honored (she was a consumer protection adviser to President Obama) member of America’s upper 1 percent went looking for people “who are like I am” among Native Americans?

The diversity of Elizabeth Warren - Conservative News, Views & Books

Will is right: "This makes perfect sense to a liberal subscriber to the central superstition of the diversity industry, which is the premise of identity politics: Personhood is distilled not to the content of character but only to race, ethnicity, gender or sexual preference."
 
Meathead said:
Who woulda thought the Cherokees would return with a blue-eyed blond:

They took the whole Cherokee nation
And put us on this reservation
They took away our ways of life
The tomahawk and the bow and knife

They took away our native tongue
And taught their English to our young
And all the beads we made by hand
Are nowadays made in Japan

Cherokee people
Cherokee tribe
So proud to live
So proud to die
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Actually some stayed behind and others settled for a while in Alabama and Mississippi.

Read about Shubuta Trading post in Clark county...and indian settlement in Escambia County.
 
sharon said:
Actually some stayed behind and others settled for a while in Alabama and Mississippi.

Read about Shubuta Trading post in Clark county...and indian settlement in Escambia County.
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She was born in Oklahoma. you ...i...t...z. Sharon, how many passports do you have?(an inside kinda joke)
 
Eighty Deuce said:
But this thread, and story, ain't about you and me ;)

As for how the national parties play their politics, can't have it both ways.
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Why not? You do.
 
jerry7 said:
It's all in the cheekbones. lol

Far left darling Elizabeth Warren, who lied about being Native American for years, told reporters yesterday that her grandfather had “high cheekbones… like all indians do.”
Now doesn’t that sound a bit racist, Elizabeth?
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Really? You are now going to play the race card?
 
Meathead said:
She was born in Oklahoma. you ...i...t...z. Sharon, how many passports do you have?(an inside kinda joke)
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Am I to understand that no Cherokee families were resettled in Oklahoma?

I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.. There are many Americans who have some indian ancestry.. which doesn't qualify them for "Affirmative Action".. but there is no cause to deny their heritage.

When did you research her ancestry?
 
Meathead said:
You're weird.
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You are in a political forum acting like a 5 year old by name-calling Elizabeth Warren "Dizzy Lizzie"... and you are calling other people weird?
 
Meathead said:
She was born in Oklahoma. you ...i...t...z. Sharon, how many passports do you have?(an inside kinda joke)
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And Oklahoma was the end of the trail of tears that Andrew Jackson sent the Cherokee on.


The Trail of Tears is a name given to the forced relocation and movement of Native American nations from southeastern parts of the United States following the Indian Removal Act of 1830. The removal included many members of the Cherokee, Muscogee (Creek), Seminole, Chickasaw, and Choctaw nations, among others in the United States, from their homelands to Indian Territory (eastern sections of the present-day state of Oklahoma).
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