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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Priority #1 for liberals is free stuff. Integrity is so far down the list you need a flashlight to find it.
    Seriously, dude? How cliché ...I know plenty of liberals who make damn good money and dont get anything free.
    Silly poor people
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
    Seriously, dude? How cliché ...I know plenty of liberals who make damn good money and dont get anything free.
    Nah! You know guys like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are lazy parasites.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm not willing to indict all liberal politicians; some are very fine folks whose beliefs are opposed to mine. (And obviously wrong since they disagree with mine!)

    But here in Warren you have somebody you deliberately exploited an "opportunity" and now has to try to defend her exploitation because she's been busted. LOL, such a "minority" hire she was, and she let stand for eons that so-called "minority" status because it benefited her.

    No tears that she's been exposed for the cheap opportunist she is.
    Barrack Obama is 50% White but he calls himself Black. Elizabeth Warren says she is 31/32 White but she calls herself a Native Indian.

    Being White seems to have fallen out of favor.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Barrack Obama is 50% White but he calls himself Black.
    This is common as most Mulattos consider themselves Black. Been that way for a long time.
    Silly poor people
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Also true is that in the Judeo definition, "race" descends from the mother rather than the father.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
    Seriously, dude? How cliché ...I know plenty of liberals who make damn good money and dont get anything free.
    Obama's reelection theme is class-envy. Free stuff.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Obama's reelection theme is class-envy. Free stuff.

    I have never understood this thinking. Forget how it may or may not relate to the election.

    Is there "class envy"? Doh! As Homer would say, there has been class envy as long as there have been classes in human society. However, how does one go from accepting a reality, something that does exist, and adding to it a factor that may or may not exist.

    Why and how does "class envy" equate to "free stuff"? The basis of class envy is a perception by one group (or groups) that the playing field and its rules are not fair, that one group begins the game with an unfair advantage, the old saying was "born with a silver spoon".

    We have one side saying everybody in America has equal opportunities to better themselves, always with examples of those who have done so but exceptions only serve to prove the rule. So what is wrong with actually helping get everyone into the game with a real chance at playing with the same rules?
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I have never understood this thinking. Forget how it may or may not relate to the election.

    Is there "class envy"? Doh! As Homer would say, there has been class envy as long as there have been classes in human society. However, how does one go from accepting a reality, something that does exist, and adding to it a factor that may or may not exist.

    Why and how does "class envy" equate to "free stuff"? The basis of class envy is a perception by one group (or groups) that the playing field and its rules are not fair, that one group begins the game with an unfair advantage, the old saying was "born with a silver spoon".

    We have one side saying everybody in America has equal opportunities to better themselves, always with examples of those who have done so but exceptions only serve to prove the rule. So what is wrong with actually helping get everyone into the game with a real chance at playing with the same rules?
    Of course there is class envy but I doubt it is as widespread as some would have us believe. The difference now is that Barack Obama is seeking to exploit class envy and make an election issue of it.

    Everyone can play by the same rules now by working hard and working smart. Outcomes will vary.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago


    Actually isn't that what she did? She said it was oral tradition that came down in her family. It was never used to get into school or into a job.
    Tribes with lucrative oil/mineral/casino rights are not eger to ad to their tribal rolls.
    Scott Brown is a Wall St. Lacky who fears (as surroget for W.S.) for his job, & Warren's mission to keep Wall St. (making Sen. Brown the #1 resipiant of W.S. $$$$) from rapeing the consumer.
    Basicly it is the Swiftboating of Elizabeth Warren. Of course Warrens insistence that she will only talk about the issues doesn't help. We all know that when you ignor lies & misrepresntations, they grow.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Heres the proverbial 'bone' I'll toss out there...the fact is this SHOULDNT be an issue. It should have been one and done a long time ago. I am always amazed at how foolishly politicians handle 'scandals'. Warren should have come out IMMEDIATELY and said..."wow...hey...totally my bad. When I did it I did so because I truly believed it is part of my ancestry. I see that people are upset and very much understand why they are upset. Please know I meant NO harm or disrespect and accept full responsibility and I appeal to YOUR rich heritage and traditions of forgiveness. Thank you." She should have offered a face to face meeting, came out holding hands...done and done.

    Then every time it was brought up again she should have agreed with the person. Yes...I know...that was a mistake. Very much apologize. Now...about the campaign....

    Politicians tend to do make things worse. Clinton did it. Edwards did it. Romney is doing it with his ever changing positions.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I have never understood this thinking. Forget how it may or may not relate to the election.

    Is there "class envy"? Doh! As Homer would say, there has been class envy as long as there have been classes in human society. However, how does one go from accepting a reality, something that does exist, and adding to it a factor that may or may not exist.

    Why and how does "class envy" equate to "free stuff"? The basis of class envy is a perception by one group (or groups) that the playing field and its rules are not fair, that one group begins the game with an unfair advantage, the old saying was "born with a silver spoon".

    We have one side saying everybody in America has equal opportunities to better themselves, always with examples of those who have done so but exceptions only serve to prove the rule. So what is wrong with actually helping get everyone into the game with a real chance at playing with the same rules?
    Did Homer say that there has been class envy as a reelection theme ?

    Liz Warren is a lying sack of crap. ....... "Oh, but she says some good things" .................. oh the irony

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