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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    one would think those options would be pervasive
    unfortunately, they are not
    as a contractor for a (million+ population) municipal government, i had to make such designation within the past 10 days: choose one or the other. not both. no 'other' with an opportunity to be specific
    i was limited to one choice or the other
    They are pervasive in college applications, and I would imagine the professors/admins are similarly treated.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    They are pervasive in college applications, and I would imagine the professors/admins are similarly treated.

    yep, years ago I applied to teach con law at a local law school. I am a white man who graduated in the top quarter of my class at one of the best law schools in the country THe other candidate was bottom 15% at the other local law school but a black female. I was told that the ABA had criticized the school for having less a percentage of black law professors than black students so she was hired. She lasted 2 years. I got a much better job where I have been over 20 years but this sort of crap happens all the time.

    IT is extremely rare for Harvard to hire someone who was a graduate of even a great school ranked below Harvard. Columbia, Penn, Duke, Cornell are all top of the shelf law schools but rarely will someone with a law degree from those schools teach at Harvard. Generally its Harvard, Yale and infrequently Chicago or Stanford. so when someone goes to a school not ranked in the top 50 you sort of say WTF?

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    actually, no
    those of us with mixed heritage have to make a choice
    1/4 Cherokee heritage
    do i identify myself as Native American or white
    if i check 'white' then there is the potential someone would argue i did not properly classify myself
    if i check 'Native American' then there is the possibility - such as is evident in this thread - that i am using my Cherokee heritage to gain personal advantage
    it's a catch 22 of minor proportion
    Who would argue that? These classifications are meaningless and do nothing but create divisiveness.

    Personally, white, hispanic, asian. When I see those boxes, I click them all....even Black or African American. If you go back far enough, we all originated out of Africa...right? If they only allow one "check," I click other.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yep, years ago I applied to teach con law at a local law school. I am a white man who graduated in the top quarter of my class at one of the best law schools in the country THe other candidate was bottom 15% at the other local law school but a black female. I was told that the ABA had criticized the school for having less a percentage of black law professors than black students so she was hired. She lasted 2 years. I got a much better job where I have been over 20 years but this sort of crap happens all the time.

    IT is extremely rare for Harvard to hire someone who was a graduate of even a great school ranked below Harvard. Columbia, Penn, Duke, Cornell are all top of the shelf law schools but rarely will someone with a law degree from those schools teach at Harvard. Generally its Harvard, Yale and infrequently Chicago or Stanford. so when someone goes to a school not ranked in the top 50 you sort of say WTF?
    Maybe, maybe not. In any case, as we know, the person who recruited her didn't even know about the cherokee thing, so it obviously wasn't a factor.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    We can't have legislators who are more concerned with serving their country than they are with adhering to a partisan check list. That will never do!
    If you mean running our country over a financial cliff as serving our country, I'd have to disagree with you.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    LMAO....you can't make this stuff up! Shouldn't the title of this cook be considered racially offensive to most of the liberal persuasion? Not the "high cheek bones" on artist's depiction.

    Elizabeth Warren family cookbook 'Pow Wow Chow' surfaces as Native American criticism continues | masslive.com

    elizabeth-warren-pow-wow-chow-7c4e8be01c26805a.jpg

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. In any case, as we know, the person who recruited her didn't even know about the cherokee thing, so it obviously wasn't a factor.
    if her resume was heightened due to her racial preference game than it would be akin to the "cats' paw" theory of discrimination

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You mean that CFBP that Obama just stuck his guy in unconstitutionally?

    You mean that CFBP that is a manner of control of the financial industry in this country that Stalin would be proud of?

    That one....?

    Yeah...We can do without another big government, total control, central government liberal/progressive/marxist in any position of power.

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    Yes the one that is a duplicate agency to one we already have at the FTC!

    Federal Trade Commission - Division of Financial Practices

    Financial practices affect all consumers in fundamental ways, including whether they pay more for – or can even buy – essential goods and services, such as cars and homes. Deceptive and unfair financial services practices often cause serious consumer injury, making consumer financial literacy a key goal. The Division of Financial Practices plays a vital role in this market because much of the financial services industry is under the FTC’s jurisdiction. The Division protects consumers from deceptive or unfair practices by financial services companies through law enforcement in both federal and administrative courts, education, and policy leadership in the following areas:

    * The advertising of financial products or services, including subprime credit cards or stored value cards. Consumers are entitled to accurate and complete information about costs and other key terms before they enter into financial transactions: it allows them to compare offers and make informed purchasing decisions. The Division challenges the deceptive marketing of credit cards, stored value cards, leases, and other financial products.

    * Mortgage lending, including subprime and fair lending practices. The purchase of a home often is a consumer’s biggest financial investment. The Division brings cases to halt deceptive mortgage lending practices, particularly those in the subprime market. The Division also ensures that lenders comply with the Equal Credit Opportunity Act, which prohibits discrimination in lending – for example, charging higher prices or denying credit based on reasons that are not related to creditworthiness, like race or national origin.

    * Mortgage servicing practices. Consumers can pick which home to buy, but have no choice in the company that collects their mortgage payment – known as a mortgage servicer. The Division enforces consumer protection laws in this industry to ensure that these companies do not use deceptive or unfair practices when servicing mortgage loans.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post

    Did Cher make an updated version that's 1/32nd breed by chance?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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