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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    By extension?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    Yes, extension or #1 Die Erweiterung. I'm sure you learned that stratagem in your two years of debate.

    This constant right wing trying to justify past history which deserves no justification is not at all becoming.
    HUH?
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What 'tactic' would that be?

    You see, in truth I have never read Alinsky. I did debate in college for two years. Perhaps you are confusing 'tactics'?
    Er...uh, that would be tactic #38 Sei persönlich, beleidigend, grob also known as argumentum ad personam but again I'm sure you learned that in your two years of college debate.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

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    Yes, I saw this was the early lead on the Drudge report today.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes, I saw this was the early lead on the Drudge report today.
    Does this bother you?

    Personally, as I understand it the correlation of the ‘advancement’ of Warren and her heritage is tenuous at best. If she was stating her heritage based on what she was raised to believe by her parents/grandparents I see no fault in her. Are we to presume that each should investigate a claim longstanding in one’s family history before promoting it? Especially if there is not consequential ramifications…other than one’s ability to claim ‘she lied’? Non story in my book.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    If Warren can claim (with a straight face) 1/35th Cherokee... we all can claim some inane fraction and some can claim minority status. I'm sure such a thing is unintended, but really.... Warren couldn't win an election without it? That spells desperation.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If Warren can claim (with a straight face) 1/35th Cherokee... we all can claim some inane fraction and some can claim minority status. I'm sure such a thing is unintended, but really.... Warren couldn't win an election without it? That spells desperation.
    Huh? She wasn't using this in the election. It's her opponents who are trying to swift boat her with it. So yeah, it does smack a bit of desperation.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Huh? She wasn't using this in the election. It's her opponents who are trying to swift boat her with it. So yeah, it does smack a bit of desperation.
    According to this article, the Boston Herald was citing a 1996 Harvard Crimson article about diversity... which brought it to light. You're saying that the Boston Herald is "swift boating" Warren?

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    The story kicked off Friday when the Boston Herald reported on an article that ran in the Harvard Crimson in 1996 about students’ concerns regarding a lack of diversity among the school’s faculty. In the story, Warren, who serves as the Leo Gottlieb Professor of Law at Harvard’s Law School, was cited as Native American. Warren’s identification as Native American pre-dates her time at Harvard.

    Law School directories from the Association of American Law Schools from 1986-1995 list Warren as a minority law professor. During this time Warren taught at the University of Texas School of Law and the University of Pennsylvania Law School.
    Granted, Warren didn't bring it up herself, nor is Brown using it to pummel Warren in the close race in Mass. Is there some new take on the vast right wing conspiracy to take Warren out? Maybe this is a teachable moment. We all, as Americans, should claim 1/20,000th part African American, as the cradle of man started in Africa. Therefore, we're ALL minorities.


    One correction: I stated 1/35th.... it was reported as 1/32nd. My mistake.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    According to this article, the Boston Herald was citing a 1996 Harvard Crimson article about diversity... which brought it to light. You're saying that the Boston Herald is "swift boating" Warren?
    Yes, that's right. Apparently you are confusing the right-wing Herald with the left-of-center Globe.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, that's right. Apparently you are confusing the right-wing Herald with the left-of-center Globe.
    Right, left, it doesn't matter. Warren is a ditz who only the radical left crowd could take seriously. She's a poorer choice than that Conklin woman, even in a liberal Massachusetts.

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