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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, Elizabeth Warren did NOT put Cherokee on any admission form. The story was run from the Boston Herald. The editor in chief of the Boston Herald is a close friend of Scott Brown, and has worked on campaigns for both Brown and Romney. Papers have now surfaced, and on those papers, in Warren's own handwriting is "White" where it asks for race. Also, Warren did NOT claim any kind of minority status for law school. The story is here. Scott Brown's friend at the Boston Herald is courting libel by printing that lie.
    Eh, I don't know man. There are so many partisan sources giving their own accounts it's impossible to say, which is why I left it open to anything she actually did. You've gotta agree though that Warren is a business killing shrew who should eat a gun.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, Elizabeth Warren did NOT put Cherokee on any admission form. The story was run from the Boston Herald. The editor in chief of the Boston Herald is a close friend of Scott Brown, and has worked on campaigns for both Brown and Romney. Papers have now surfaced, and on those papers, in Warren's own handwriting is "White" where it asks for race. Also, Warren did NOT claim any kind of minority status for law school. The story is here. Scott Brown's friend at the Boston Herald is courting libel by printing that lie.
    Dana, can you join me in the circle that says "I care about this as much as I care about Romney's schoolyard pranks?"
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Dana, can you join me in the circle that says "I care about this as much as I care about Romney's schoolyard pranks?"
    Let's put this out there. I absolutely ****ing HATE Romney as the Republican candidate. Here's where the line is, Romney bullying that poor guy 50 years ago is irrelevant to where he is now. If Warren defrauded one university on her way to where she is at it's a different ballgame considering the domino effect of her resume.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Let's put this out there. I absolutely ****ing HATE Romney as the Republican candidate. Here's where the line is, Romney bullying that poor guy 50 years ago is irrelevant to where he is now. If Warren defrauded one university on her way to where she is at it's a different ballgame considering the domino effect of her resume.
    And how exactly does claiming Indian heritage a long time ago impact her general competency today?

    The reason I don't give a **** about Romney's antics as a kid is the same reason I don't gave a **** that Warren may have incorrectly claimed to be part Cherokee a long time ago. Neither impact their capacity to do the jobs they are trying to get.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And how exactly does claiming Indian heritage a long time ago impact her general competency today?

    The reason I don't give a **** about Romney's antics as a kid is the same reason I don't gave a **** that Warren may have incorrectly claimed to be part Cherokee a long time ago. Neither impact their capacity to do the jobs they are trying to get.
    She isn't competent, so that's out. We can argue she got into her current position by committing fraud if she claimed Cherokee heritage even once without it being recognized by the Cherokee Nation.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    She isn't competent
    Because....

    We can argue she got into her current position by committing fraud if she claimed Cherokee heritage even once without it being recognized by the Cherokee Nation.
    And that impacts her capacity to be a Senator how?

    How does lying about a part of your heritage impact your capacity to do basic math (which many Senators and Reps cannot do now)?
    How does lying about a part of your heritage impact your capacity to understand a bill (which many Senators and Reps cannot do now)?
    How does lying about a part of your heritage impact your capacity to understand Senate procedure?
    How does lying about a part of your heritage impact your capacity to listen to what her voters want (which many Senators and Reps cannot do now)?

    Notice I can replace lying about a part of your heritage with being a bully in grade school and it's the same outcome.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    She isn't competent, so that's out. We can argue she got into her current position by committing fraud if she claimed Cherokee heritage even once without it being recognized by the Cherokee Nation.
    But she didn't. It's a lie.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    But she didn't. It's a lie.
    I'm still waiting for how her alleged heritage issue has any real impact upon her capacity and competency to be a Senator.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Because....
    As I pointed out on another Warren thread. She throws out sophmoric social theory that has little merit outside of academia and frankly doesn't translate to the real world. She has less than adequate grasp of economics yet opines on it and looks like a total idiot.



    And that impacts her capacity to be a Senator how?
    I guess if you want someone who doesn't have any practical experience in the real world or working knowledge of things setting policy.....nothing. However I want someone with a modicum of common sense it means everything.

    How does lying about a part of your heritage impact your capacity to do basic math (which many Senators and Reps cannot do now)?
    Who cares? Seriously if someone cheats you don't reward them with power, you throw them in a place where they see the sun approximately never.
    How does lying about a part of your heritage impact your capacity to understand a bill (which many Senators and Reps cannot do now)?
    Considering the cheating aspect........possibly everything is affected by the cheating. Let me ask. Would you want to drive on a bridge constructed by someone who cheated at engineering? Or would you trust a financial manager who cheated his way to the top? If not, why would you trust a stupid ass that cheated her way into college?
    How does lying about a part of your heritage impact your capacity to understand Senate procedure?
    It just might actually.
    How does lying about a part of your heritage impact your capacity to listen to what her voters want (which many Senators and Reps cannot do now)?
    I don't give a flying **** what "the voters want" I care about actually following the constitution. Anyone too stupid or dishonest to do that does not deserve power.

    Notice I can replace lying about a part of your heritage with being a bully in grade school and it's the same outcome.
    I'm pretty sure you can't. See, we've prosecuted fraud for years, bullying, while bad, is only NOW an issue. So, you are going to defend someone who committed fraud because you agree with the platform?
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    But she didn't. It's a lie.
    And this is where we have seperation. We have biases for and against, in her own words she quoted her family using the "Cherokee heritage" argument, something I've heard. I choose to believe if she is stupid enough to say something like that on record she probably did actually cheat.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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