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    Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    I have to be honest i didnt expect this...it will be appealed im sure...


    A federal judge declared Gov. Rick Scott's order requiring drug testing for some 85,000 state workers unconstitutional Thursday, saying the governor showed no evidence of a drug problem at the agencies to warrant suspicionless testing.


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    Re: Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I have to be honest i didnt expect this...it will be appealed im sure...


    A federal judge declared Gov. Rick Scott's order requiring drug testing for some 85,000 state workers unconstitutional Thursday, saying the governor showed no evidence of a drug problem at the agencies to warrant suspicionless testing.

    if state workers cant be drug tested,might as well end it for federal workers,since it was ruled unconstitutional.


    Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional | NBC 6 Miami
    wow that order seemsto defy all logic,pretty much every government agency state or federal and most civilian companies perform drug tests.
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    Re: Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    wow that order seemsto defy all logic,pretty much every government agency state or federal and most civilian companies perform drug tests.
    So to be clear, you think it's not a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments to piss and/or blood test recipients of state aid to protect the integrity of our welfare programs, but it is DEFINITELY a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments to take a DNA swab to protect the integrity of our electoral process.

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    Re: Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So to be clear, you think it's not a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments to piss and/or blood test recipients of state aid to protect the integrity of our welfare programs, but it is DEFINITELY a violation of the 4th and 5th amendments to take a DNA swab to protect the integrity of our electoral process.

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    ok by that logic we must end all drug tests of federal employees,since there is no evidence of drug use.great the military should follow too.

    btw the drug tests are not mandatory,except to keep your jobs,the amendments dont apply to one groupand then not apply to pilots or police officers.you cant just claim its ok.employment is not a constitutionally backed part of this country,and so requiring drug tests therefore does not violate any part of the constitution,they haver the right to say no,and forfeit the job!
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    Re: Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    What's next entering everyone's house to make sure there's nothing amiss? Did the governor include himself as well as the other state pols?

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    Re: Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    ok by that logic we must end all drug tests of federal employees,since there is no evidence of drug use.great the military should follow too.

    btw the drug tests are not mandatory,except to keep your jobs,the amendments dont apply to one groupand then not apply to pilots or police officers.you cant just claim its ok.employment is not a constitutionally backed part of this country,and so requiring drug tests therefore does not violate any part of the constitution,they haver the right to say no,and forfeit the job!
    DNA testing for elections wouldn't be mandatory either, except if you want to vote. And of course coservatives are quick to point out there is no constitutional right to vote.

    So can you explain the absolute inconsistency in your two positions?
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    Re: Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    ok by that logic we must end all drug tests of federal employees,since there is no evidence of drug use.great the military should follow too.
    Sounds good to me. I am against suspicionless drug testing...across the board.

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    Re: Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    The Governor is finding new ways to spend, these workers would probably be paid to visit the clinic and I would guess that the testing would require funds. If 85,000 workers need a $25.00 exam then that alone would cost around two million dollars(if my math is correct)and the paid time off for the workers to take this exam would probably cost maybe an hour or two(non productive time).

    Maybe the Governors and his wife have a stake in one of those private clinics which would do some of the testing. What a coincidence(if that is true).

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    Re: Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    DNA testing for elections wouldn't be mandatory either, except if you want to vote. And of course coservatives are quick to point out there is no constitutional right to vote.

    So can you explain the absolute inconsistency in your two positions?
    you are arguing constitutional rights vs job requirements,show me where a job is required by the constitution??


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    Re: Judge Declares State Worker Drug Testing Order Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    Sounds good to me. I am against suspicionless drug testing...across the board.
    problem is if itsa job requirement,there is nowhere in the constitution saying its illegal.would you have pilots not needing drug tests until one is spun on meth and he crahses a plane?\\

    last scenario obviously doesnt apply to everyone but obviously the judge didnt followvery well the law,either that or drug tests are unconstitutianal,meaning the military fed employees and every emplouer nationwide needs to stopgiving them,ordo state employees have special rights other citizens dont?
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