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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Obama and his minions screw the pooch and team Obama is blaming Bush again.

    SHOCKING I TELL YOU
    i swear if liberals spent as much time trying to fix problems as they did blaming bush,we would all be swimming in a sea of gold,but obviously blaming someone is easier than fixing a problem or admitting you screwed up.
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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    i swear if liberals spent as much time trying to fix problems as they did blaming bush,we would all be swimming in a sea of gold,but obviously blaming someone is easier than fixing a problem or admitting you screwed up.
    some people here can never admit to the obvious.

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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    It says it traced 68K guns back to the USA. I heard today, flipping channels in the car, that they have confiscated over 300K guns... also that most guns they trace average to be about 15 years old. So how 'update' is their data? And what is the total number of guns for sure. If only 68K of 300K came from America, then the picture is quite different than the anti-gun folks want painted.
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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    It says it traced 68K guns back to the USA. I heard today, flipping channels in the car, that they have confiscated over 300K guns... also that most guns they trace average to be about 15 years old. So how 'update' is their data? And what is the total number of guns for sure. If only 68K of 300K came from America, then the picture is quite different than the anti-gun folks want painted.
    Only morons actually believe that American gun laws have anything to do with violence in a country as corrupt as Mexico and only dishonest obamamites claim that cracking down on legitimate American gun dealers is a relevant response

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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    It says it traced 68K guns back to the USA. I heard today, flipping channels in the car, that they have confiscated over 300K guns... also that most guns they trace average to be about 15 years old. So how 'update' is their data? And what is the total number of guns for sure. If only 68K of 300K came from America, then the picture is quite different than the anti-gun folks want painted.
    that just backs my claims that most the cartel guns come from other countries through the black market.why buy a ruger mini 14 from the us and smuggle it when its easier to get full auto ak-47s and other foreign military grade weapons for pennies on the dollar of what it costs to smuggle it from america.the only reason i can see them wanting our guns is quality over black market guns,and they have the money to afford it.
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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Obama and his minions screw the pooch and team Obama is blaming Bush again.

    SHOCKING I TELL YOU
    Says the guy who accuses ME of mistating what others say.

    I'm not "blaming" Bush or Obama. Trying to prevent gun smuggling from the U.S. to criminals across the border is just being a good neighbor.

    But you have an obvious logic problem if you're claiming that Obama just did it as an underhanded way to attack U.S. gun owners ... unless you think that Bush was also engaged in a sneaky attack on gun owners' rights. Is that what you're saying?
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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Says the guy who accuses ME of mistating what others say.

    I'm not "blaming" Bush or Obama. Trying to prevent gun smuggling from the U.S. to criminals across the border is just being a good neighbor.

    But you have an obvious logic problem if you're claiming that Obama just did it as an underhanded way to attack U.S. gun owners ... unless you think that Bush was also engaged in a sneaky attack on gun owners' rights. Is that what you're saying?
    the fast and furious program under Obama was designed to create ammunition for the anti gun elements in the administration to justify further restrictions on american FFL holders.

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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the fast and furious program under Obama was designed to create ammunition for the anti gun elements in the administration to justify further restrictions on american FFL holders.
    But the almost identical Bush program was not, is that what you're trying to say? Can you explain the difference? Do you have any evidence to support the motive you ascribe to the Obama program, other than pure partisan hackery and right wing paranoia?
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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    But the almost identical Bush program was not, is that what you're trying to say? Can you explain the difference? Do you have any evidence to support the motive you ascribe to the Obama program, other than pure partisan hackery and right wing paranoia?
    the atf used to list the number of untrackable illegally made guns,since obamas administartion they have onlylisted trackable guns,the fact they blame 100% of guns in mexico on the us,but cant list how many untrackable guns shows they have an agenda.

    unlike td though i dont believe its for anti gun purposes,i believe its because the atf would lose funding and staff due to lessening crimes in america between the bush and obama terms.
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    Re: Mexico Seized 68,000 Guns Traceable to U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    the atf used to list the number of untrackable illegally made guns,since obamas administartion they have onlylisted trackable guns,the fact they blame 100% of guns in mexico on the us,but cant list how many untrackable guns shows they have an agenda.

    unlike td though i dont believe its for anti gun purposes,i believe its because the atf would lose funding and staff due to lessening crimes in america between the bush and obama terms.
    They don't blame 100% of the guns in Mexicon on the US. That's bull****. I believe it's ONLY about 20%.

    Do you think we would have a problem with Mexico if 20% of the guns used in crimes here came from Mexico? I think Americans would have a big problem with it.
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