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    Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    Three white men convicted of hate crimes in attack at Houston bus stop - Houston Chronicle

    "Three white men were convicted Monday of a racially motivated attack on a black man at a downtown Houston bus stop last summer, the first conviction in the Houston area under a tough federal hate crime law."


    It would seem to me that indeed, America has a real problem with rearing its children to obey the law and respect others. It would also seem to me that there are a lot of people like this out there, behaving exactly the way their parents taught them - either by omission or direct malfeasance in their parental responsibilities. How else do people turn out to be so depraved.

    This is what happens when you fail to parent.

    A society in collapse, no doubt. I'll give the country I love so dearly, another 75 to 100 years before all hell breaks loose - if we don't collectively get our moral act together.

    It begins with Parenting.

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    Re: Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    Its a shame that "Do unto others as you would have done unto you" isn't enough anymore.

    However, I think that "hate" crimes is a really silly silly concept. It takes Intent beyond what is required.

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    Re: Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    It begins with Parenting.
    Yes it does, but it does not end there nor is parenting the "be all end all" determination of ones actions.

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    Re: Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    Prosecuting as a hate crime is silly. Did they commit the crime with hate in their heart? If so, then it's something to be considered during the sentencing phase of a trial, but putting that into a hate crime law really does nothing, other than to add yet another silly-assed law to a legal system that is already bloated with silly-assed laws.
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    Re: Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    its very sad that some people would murder, or rape, or rob someone......simply due to their skin color.

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    Re: Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    its very sad that some people would murder, or rape, or rob someone......simply due to their skin color.
    I would amend your statement to: "it's very sad that some people would murder, or rape, or rob someone, period."

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    Re: Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its very sad that some people would murder, or rape, or rob someone......simply due to their skin color.
    So you think there are valid reasons to rape,murder or rob someone?
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    Re: Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Three white men convicted of hate crimes in attack at Houston bus stop - Houston Chronicle

    "Three white men were convicted Monday of a racially motivated attack on a black man at a downtown Houston bus stop last summer, the first conviction in the Houston area under a tough federal hate crime law."

    Tough fed hate crime law....

    Hate crime is so ****ing stupid, like crime is committed because they like someone.

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    Re: Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you think there are valid reasons to rape,murder or rob someone?
    That's not what he's saying. He's saying that it's even more illogical to do it because of race. I don't know about rape, but I could see where murder and robbery would be seen as logical courses of action depending on the circumstance. Hell, governments do it all the time. The same as people who are down on their luck. You're broke? No jobs? Rob somebody with money.

    Actually, people reason out murder all the time. Religion, fraud, etc have all led to murder. However killing somebody because of their skin color is as illogical as one can possibly get. It's based purely on an emotional instinct and nothing more.
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    Re: Three White Men Convicted of Hate Crimes

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you think there are valid reasons to rape,murder or rob someone?
    no, but doing it simply due to their race, religion, ethnicity, or sexuality, makes it worse.

    motivation is ALWAYS taken into account when deciding on a charge & punishment.

    hate-crime laws simply codifies a certain type of motivation to make it easier for the jury.

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